Will the Packers’ defensive “toughness” be questioned again in 2015?

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Remember these types of columns and blog posts following recent Packers playoff exits? If you're too lazy to click the link, the column calls the Packers "too soft to join the NFL's elite.' Defensive issues, particularly in the area of "toughness,' have plagued the Packers since winning the Super Bowl four seasons ago. With the exception [...]

JerseyAl wrote:

Let's face it, they're openly conceding the run game. They WANT teams to run against us, because "that's not the way to win in today's NFL."

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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greengold
Member

9 years ago

Let's face it, they're openly conceding the run game. They WANT teams to run against us, because "that's not the way to win in today's NFL."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

If you stay in the lead, you don't have to stop the run. But you do have to slow it down enough to stay in the lead. 🤣

Porforis
Veteran Member

9 years ago

If you stay in the lead, you don't have to stop the run. But you do have to slow it down enough to stay in the lead. 🤣

Originally Posted by: greengold

And your offense can't simultaneously stall out

hardrocker950
Member

9 years ago

If you stay in the lead, you don't have to stop the run. But you do have to slow it down enough to stay in the lead. 🤣

Originally Posted by: greengold

There is some truth to this. In theory it is simple, but on the field is a different story. When you have a decent lead - your D is more focused on coverage, unfortunately this makes your defense more susceptible to being run over.

(IMO)Dom needs to quit selling out on coverage once a lead is established - I am all for nickel D with a 2+ posession lead, but the opponents should have to at least think twice before running it.

yooperfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

The defense will probably be the achilles heal of the Packers again this year and once again be labeled "soft".
Until they are able to stop teams from running all over them, the well earned "soft" reputation will be hard to shake.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

9 years ago

My 2 concerns going into this year are red zone offense and stopping the run. Both sides of the ball have issues that need to be fixed.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

If you stay in the lead, you don't have to stop the run. But you do have to slow it down enough to stay in the lead. 🤣

Originally Posted by: greengold

That's true, but it's still nice to be ABLE to do so.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Let's face it, they're openly conceding the run game. They WANT teams to run against us, because "that's not the way to win in today's NFL."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I don't think they wanted to openly concede the run game. It was a the loss of Raji who was to be the size to anchor the run D.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Wade
Veteran Member

9 years ago

If you strive for dominance, you don't play not to lose a lead.

You keep hammering. You don't say "well, let's change what we're doing to keep the ball away from them." You keep hammering.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#10

The toughness of the Packers was forever tarnished when Randy Moss did the fake moon and not a single Packers defensive player knocked him flat on his ass. You take the 15 yard penalty on the kickoff to send a message that this is OUR HOUSE and no one does that in OUR HOUSE!

I know that was over a decade ago and completely new coaching staff, roster, etc ... but for me ... that was the epitome of being soft. I haven't seen anything in the defense to make me feel otherwise. Desmond Bishop's play was getting me there and then his body folded like a water logged cardboard box.

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