Dulak
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15 years ago
How can I make that bold of a statement ...?

I was writing a comment to zombies thread but realized the reply was too big for just a reply ...

as of today these are the Colts stats:
O
PTS 27.6 (5th)
YDS 384.4 (4th)
PASS YDS 296.4 (1st)
RUSH YDS 88.0 (30th)
D
PTS 16.7 (3rd)
YDS 337.4(17th)
PASS YDS 227.0(20th)
RUSH YDS 110.4 (17th)

the Packers stats:
O
PTS 26.5 (7th)
YDS 374.4 (7th)
PASS YDS 255.1 (9th)
RUSH YDS 119.3 (13th)

D
PTS 18.7(9th)
YDS 272.0 (2nd)
PASS YDS 187.0(3rd)
RUSH YDS 85.0(2nd)

You would think that with such a great D; GB would have a much better record ... our problem is all the penalties called on us. And the sacks we suffered from from games 1-10~

But back to the question ... colts D appears to middle of the road; while their O is Great.

btw Our O isnt that far behind ... could you imagine our team if they had alot less penalties called on them? and had a Oline ... IMO we would have a streak as good as the colts. Why not? ...

Lets see:
Colts - (least)10 sacks and 36 QB hits vs GB (most) 47 sacks and 81 QB hits ...

Wait ... penalty yards; ya lets look at those ... colts (least) at 476 and packers (most) at 935 yards ...

hmmm - I say we are the better football team. If only we had a Oline that could block and unbiased refs/and guys(more disciplined?) that commited less penalties.

btw - my money is on the packers to take it all.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
I would agree that with better playcalling and Oline play we would could have won the 2 MN an Bengals game.

Tampa was just an abortion on the Football field by the Pack.
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Packers_Finland
15 years ago
You don't win with stats. Ask the Cowboys in week 12. 9-4 < 13-0. The Colts are better right now.
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Dulak
  • Dulak
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15 years ago

You don't win with stats. Ask the Cowboys in week 12. 9-4 < 13-0. The Colts are better right now.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Sure you do - ill trade the colts stats of 1st in sacks allowed and penalty yardage and I bet we are 13-0.

ok like packtwins said - maybe we still lose the tampa game; but the other 3 I see us taking.

Especially the MN games where we had a roadmap to the quarterback and ref flags already pasted to our players (especially the first MN game).
Packers_Finland
15 years ago

You don't win with stats. Ask the Cowboys in week 12. 9-4 < 13-0. The Colts are better right now.

"Dulak" wrote:



Sure you do - ill trade the colts stats of 1st in sacks allowed and penalty yardage and I bet we are 13-0.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Ah, but you can't be #1 in everything. You have to sacrifice a lot to get an OL that good. You say we're an OL away from 13-0. Well, a lot of teams are missing that one thing that would make the 13-0 too, the thing is, you can't have it all at the same time, you have to balance it out. There's no way we could have a #1 OL, and still have the same kind of defense.
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mi_keys
15 years ago
Yeah, if we had an oline as good as theirs and had the discipline to not commit so many penalties we'd have a better record and might even be undefeated. But we don't. You can't say were better because if we had one more piece we'd have the same record. We don't have that piece and by virtue of that are a worse team than the colts. Now I'm thrilled with where we are and if we keep it up well be the wild card that teams want to avoid. But we still have a number of things to improve on before we can be put at the same level as teams like the colts.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
Dulak - Colts have the #1 D (tied) in the NFL. Yards don't mean a damn thing. The only thing that matters is points.

I'll tell you what. We'll play football. You can have 500 yards and 30 points. I get 300 yards and 40 points. Who wins?

In '96, we were #1 in Points For and #1 in Points Against. I could care less about how many yards we made.

The thing about the Colts - they score lots of points and don't allow s***. That's why they're 13-0. The yards is deceptive because they're often garbage yards allowed when they're up by lots of points with little time left on the clock. Meaningless. It's as meaningless as when Lynn Dickey threw for 400+ yards but we only scored 14 points and tied the game.
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Greg C.
15 years ago
I was less impressed with the Pack's #1 defensive ranking when I found out that penalty yards are not figured into it. This is pure laziness on the part of the stat guys. Yards given up by penalty are every bit as important as yards given up by the run or the pass--sometimes even more so, because many penalties contain automatic first downs.

Also, penalties reflect a deficiency in skill and/or discipline, just like any other bad plays. Penalties are often committed when players are out of position or are having to compensate for poor skills or poor technique. You just can't separate penalties from everything else, because it's all interrelated--as reflected in the win-loss columns.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
There's an argument to be made for yards, points and what not. Points don't mean shit, if you don't score more than what you gave up, that's the only time points matter. You could give up 10 a game and still lose every game by giving up only two touchdowns.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

There's an argument to be made for yards, points and what not. Points don't mean shit, if you don't score more than what you gave up, that's the only time points matter. You could give up 10 a game and still lose every game by giving up only two touchdowns.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Well, you just figured out the secret to a good TEAM - score more points than you allow.
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