lol RP

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This is the rub right here. I'm not going to pretend to know anything about the specifics of his case, but in generalities, knowing how the Houston DA's office works, I'd be very surprised to see Johnny walk away from this with anything more than probation. While it's true that the State of Texas (and Houston in particular) crack down very hard on drug and alcohol related cases, this is more on the arrest side than the conviction side. Not they they don't often go for strong convictions, but more often than not, the DA's office is just trying to get some sort of conviction, any conviction, to pad their "stats" and show the voters how they're cracking down on crime.

What bodes even better for Johnny is that a lot of these cases end up getting dropped or plead down to very minimal sentencing at the last minute. Drug and alcohol cases (or at least minor drug cases, including codeine, lean, syrup, purple stuff or any other name is popular in the local hip-hop lingo) are relatively low priority cases, yet the dockets are booked to the brink due to the arrest happy police force. What this means is two things:

1. Prosecutors want nothing more than to reach a pre-trial agreement, and like I said earlier, often plea down to severely reduced sentences just to put a W in the column.

2. When they do go to trial, good defense attorneys have extremely high success rates, mainly because they completely outmatch and outgun the rookie prosecutors who cut their teeth trying alcohol and minor drug related cases. Basically, the defenses opponent here is the weakest of what the city has to offer.

Essentially, Johnny has very little chance of seeing real, substantial legal trouble, if this case even goes to trial. Remember, only the grand jury has indicted. It's still 50/50 (sort of a made up number there) that the case even sticks. The prosecutor may take a look at the evidence and the oppsing counsel and dismiss the case. (Again, I know none of the particulars of the case)

Point being, even with a cadillac deal for a plea agreement, the Commish is the worry here, not the DA's office. Though since Johnny has no prior history that I'm aware of, I can't imagine Goodell coming down too hard. My guess would be a 4 game suspension, which at the end of the day, isn't too crippling.

EDIT: I do legal marketing here in Houston, primarily on the PI side, but I do work with several clients in criminal defense, particularly DWI and minor drug charges. So that's where my somewhat "inside" look into the Houston DA's office is coming from.

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At worst, Jolly will be suspended for up to 4 games (since it's his first offense) starting the '10 season assuming they convict him of anything before the start of the season and Goodell hands down a suspension by then.

As I stated before the start of the season, with Harrell going on IR again, Jolly was going to be a very integral cog at DE in the new 3-4, and I don't think anyone will disagree with the impact he has had on the field.

Even despite all this, I do not see the Packers cutting him because he is a valuable piece to the defense. He'll be a RFA next year and we'll probably slap him with at least a 1st round tender and let him serve any suspension like we did with Koren Robinson between the '06 and '07 seasons.

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This is a very weak case, imo.
First of all, it's based on "four black guys in a car." Then on the "odor of codeine," which as per my experts at www.drugwar.com HAS no odor.
Then they are taking all the sizzurp in the vehicle and putting it on Jolly, since he was the "driver." But they weren't driving. There was no driver. They were parked.
I don't see this going anywhere. I'd fear the Commish more than the law.

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HoustonMatt and nerdman...

Brilliant legal insight.

However..

I still can not figure out, for the life of me.... Why Jolly put himself in this situation in the first place.

I mean it was not like he was parked there because he was persuaded by the possibility to get a hummer from Jamie Jungers, Rachel Uchitel, or Jamie Grubs.

He was parked there with some ugly dudes that were all male.

What the hell was he doing there? That is the real question?

Jolly is no Tiger. (Off The Frozen Tundra.)

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I read a post by someone who compared similar cases for first time NFL offenders and their conclusion was that the Commish would be inconsistent if he banned Jolly for 4 games for this.

But say he does get banned for 4 games then that is hardly the end of the world. We just rotate in another player or go Psycho, or 2-4-5.

Capers can deal with no Jolly for 4 games.

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OR

We (Wisconsin) can take a page out of Minnesota's playbook and pass our OWN "we don't give a damn about no NFL or US Constitution" set of b.s. laws and protect him from the suspensions. He was receiving ahhh, THERAPY, ya, THERAPY, that's the ticket...We can build a courtroom in one of those adjacent properties to Lambeau that the Green Bay Packers bought up in recent years. We'll paint it green and gold so as not to confuse the season-ticket holding judges as to where our sentiments lie.






j/k-- Do the crime, do the time. I would bet HoustonMatt is 100% correct, my only (continued) fear is that due to his high "profile", and the fact that this is a rather large problem (sizzurp/purple drank/etc.) they MIGHT try and make an example of him, especially now that they got that there new-fangled zissurp tester a runnin'

Plus, with a 12 game season, Jolly will be fresher :)

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No doubt he's a dumbass for putting himself in that position. Hopefully, he's learned from it.

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