dhazer
15 years ago
where is everyone getting this two feet in kills the play? I remember the Holmes catch in the superbowl they checked for 2 feet in and also if he maintained control of the ball all the way thru the catch. So i ask anyone to find in the rulebook where it says once two feet are down the play is over in the endzone?
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buckeyepackfan
15 years ago

where is everyone getting this two feet in kills the play? I remember the Holmes catch in the superbowl they checked for 2 feet in and also if he maintained control of the ball all the way thru the catch. So i ask anyone to find in the rulebook where it says once two feet are down the play is over in the endzone?

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I guess it is all in the way you look at it. Does that mean if a guy catches a ball,clearly scores, runs out of the endzone,as he does he starts to celebrate, slips and falls and loses control of the ball it is incomplete?

I really do hope that they check this play on the NFL network, I am betting the guy(don't know his name)will say the call was wrong, even after the review.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
It is goofy. And they can call it either way. I thought it was a catch and TD.
At least they were consistant in calling it that way for the Bears later on. Even though the Bears still got a TD a play later.
I think they need to clairify that rule.
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15 years ago

The rule and no it doesnt stop just because he got 2 feet down.

Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1 of the NFL Rule Book (page 51) states that if a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact with an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

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Hmm. I wonder when the rule stops then.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Touchdown: When any part of the ball, legally in possession of a player inbounds, breaks the plane of the opponents goal line, provided it is not a touchback.



Possession: When a player controls the ball throughout the act of clearly touching both feet, or any other part of his body other than his hand(s), to the ground inbounds.


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Cheesey
15 years ago
With that Zero, sure sounds like a touchdown to me.
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djcubez
15 years ago
This is why I think challenges are stupid in general. With the amount of technology we have now why do the teams have to feel the wrath of human-error? It's stupid. Every call, if deemed questionable, should not be up to the coach to gamble a timeout with but the league to review. I just don't understand challenges. Why should the team lose a timeout if the ref could have made a mistake, regardless of whether he was right or wrong. I know they want to keep the flow of the game going but it's pretty obvious when a coach is going to want to challenge something so I doubt there would be that many more stoppages in play than there are now.

Now beyond that, and I doubt anyone is going to agree with me, I think every play should be reviewed. Not for penalties but just for consistency. You can get an instant replay within 5 seconds of it actually occurring and have someone watching them after every play just to make sure the call was right. If it's wrong the replay official will relay it to the ref and adjust the call. The only time the game would stop would be in extremely questionable calls--most the time the announcers get it right right off the bat. Those of you saying "human error" is part of the game I say "bullshit." There's no reason a team should lose because of a mistake by the refs (see Hochuli and the Chargers-Broncos last year).

Also, in addition to the refs getting calls wrong--why didn't they run 10 seconds off the clock when the Bears committed a false start with 1 minute left in the game? This is the reason we weren't allowed to run a final play against the Bengals...
15 years ago

Touchdown: When any part of the ball, legally in possession of a player inbounds, breaks the plane of the opponents goal line, provided it is not a touchback.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Possession: When a player controls the ball throughout the act of clearly touching both feet, or any other part of his body other than his hand(s), to the ground inbounds.

Also

(1) The ball is automatically dead at the instant of legal player possession on, above,
or behind the opponents goal line

If I reading this right, Jennings had possession of the ball passed the goal line, so the ball was already dead when Jennings fumbled it so it didn't matter that he fumbled. Therefore it should be a touchdown.
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dhazer
15 years ago

Touchdown: When any part of the ball, legally in possession of a player inbounds, breaks the plane of the opponents goal line, provided it is not a touchback.

"cheeseheads123" wrote:



Possession: When a player controls the ball throughout the act of clearly touching both feet, or any other part of his body other than his hand(s), to the ground inbounds.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Also

(1) The ball is automatically dead at the instant of legal player possession on, above,
or behind the opponents goal line

If I reading this right, Jennings had possession of the ball passed the goal line, so the ball was already dead when Jennings fumbled it so it didn't matter that he fumbled. Therefore it should be a touchdown.





but see then it goes back to the maintaining possession again, it's very confusing just like its not a catch if the player doesn't make a football type move. Someone watch NFL network and see if they talk about it.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
but maintaining is only pertinent if the player is falling, which I don't believe Jennings was.
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