longtimefan
15 years ago
Why use 2nd half to 1st half?

I thought it was all about cold weather? Or when weather "turns" was the word you used...Weather turning to me means getting colder..

No telling where those games in 2nd half were played, could been in domes AND warm weather
WhiskeySam
15 years ago

Why use 2nd half to 1st half?

I thought it was all about cold weather? Or when weather "turns" was the word you used...Weather turning to me means getting colder..

No telling where those games in 2nd half were played, could been in domes AND warm weather

"longtimefan" wrote:



Because the 2nd half begins in November when the weather starts to turn. You're right some of those games were played in warm weather and domes, but the QBs having home games in warm climes and domes played more games in those conditions than those who play home games in cold climate-outdoor stadiums.
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longtimefan
15 years ago

Why use 2nd half to 1st half?

I thought it was all about cold weather? Or when weather "turns" was the word you used...Weather turning to me means getting colder..

No telling where those games in 2nd half were played, could been in domes AND warm weather

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Because the 2nd half begins in November when the weather starts to turn. You're right some of those games were played in warm weather and domes, but the QBs having home games in warm climes and domes played more games in those conditions than those who play home games in cold climate-outdoor stadiums.

"longtimefan" wrote:



Well DUH......I know Nov and Dec are NORMALLY the start of cold weather but thats not a given..

Look at this year in....just this week it started to get cold..Hell Thanksgiving Milwaukee was near 50..In Milwaukee the Sat AFTER turkey day I was in shorts outside hanging Christmas lights...So you cant trust that ALL the games in Nov and Dec were under 40...


That is why if your going to compare q/b in "cold" games use the stat provided on the site which clearly labels the temp..

But doesnt matter

We could argue this all day long

I got my theory as you do
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Packers play Arizona in the second half of the season. It'll be pretty comfortable weather in AZ at that time, plus, the roof will probably be closed.

The time of year is irrelevant. The actual game time temperature of an outside stadium is what matters.
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longtimefan
15 years ago

Packers play Arizona in the second half of the season. It'll be pretty comfortable weather in AZ at that time, plus, the roof will probably be closed.

The time of year is irrelevant. The actual game time temperature of an outside stadium is what matters.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Thank you
WhiskeySam
15 years ago

Packers play Arizona in the second half of the season. It'll be pretty comfortable weather in AZ at that time, plus, the roof will probably be closed.

The time of year is irrelevant. The actual game time temperature of an outside stadium is what matters.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Doesn't the time of year generally determine the temperature outdoors?
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Packers_Finland
15 years ago

Packers play Arizona in the second half of the season. It'll be pretty comfortable weather in AZ at that time, plus, the roof will probably be closed.

The time of year is irrelevant. The actual game time temperature of an outside stadium is what matters.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Doesn't the time of year generally determine the temperature outdoors?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Like it has been said numerous times in this thread; why do it by the time of year, when you have statistics for games that are done in cold and freezing? Time of year stats miss the games that are played in warm areas, plus dome games.
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longtimefan
15 years ago

Packers play Arizona in the second half of the season. It'll be pretty comfortable weather in AZ at that time, plus, the roof will probably be closed.

The time of year is irrelevant. The actual game time temperature of an outside stadium is what matters.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Doesn't the time of year generally determine the temperature outdoors?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



LOL

Yes of course...But for stats provided for the 2nd half..How many were in domes, how many were under 40 degrees how many were in a warm climate...Way to many variables to judge the q.b with just 2nd half..

Manning could have 50 games in a dome or warm weather and only 5 in a game under 40 degrees..Rodgers or Brett could be just the opposite..

not really fair to judge them on just on 2nd half..

You can eliminate ALL those variables when saying whats their rating under 40 degrees
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Packers play Arizona in the second half of the season. It'll be pretty comfortable weather in AZ at that time, plus, the roof will probably be closed.

The time of year is irrelevant. The actual game time temperature of an outside stadium is what matters.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Doesn't the time of year generally determine the temperature outdoors?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You don't have a roof over your house, do you?

Either you're really stupid, or you're playing ignorant with perfection while adding a touch of motivation of being a prick. Or I'm just missing the point all together. (I'm putting my money on the latter)


I'll try to make this simple (so at least I can follow along).

When you play in a warm climate city, ie Tempe, San Fransisco, Miami, etc ... the temperature is going to be fairly comfortable or hot, regardless of the time of year.

When you play a team in a dome, the temperature is 70 degrees no matter what day of the year it is. Interesting isn't it?


Therefore when comparing Favre's games that he's played in the cold (meaning not under a roof with a controlled climate), with other QB's who played in the month of December, that's really irresponsible in regards to the accuracy of your research.


It's a fact that Favre has tailed off performance wise in colder games at the end of seasons. Have other QB's? I don't know, I never cared enough to look it up.

If one were to look it up, they'd have to find the game time temperature's of each game of each QB and set a barometer, ie 30 degrees or less to collect data for the comparison.




To say that games in December = colder games, that's quite idiotic when you fail to incorporate dome teams and warm weather cities into the mix.
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longtimefan
15 years ago
Zero I think he realized he is way off base and is just trying to save face now LOL
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