porky88
15 years ago
Jolly is an RFA, assuming there is no cap. Packers can tender him at the highest level and there is no way a team will give, I believe, a first and a third for him.

With Pickett, I'd strongly consider using the franchise tag on him over Aaron Kampman.
bozz_2006
15 years ago
I had no idea his case was dismissed. If so, that's UNBELIEVABLY good news!
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coltonja
15 years ago

Jolly is an RFA, assuming there is no cap. Packers can tender him at the highest level and there is no way a team will give, I believe, a first and a third for him.

With Pickett, I'd strongly consider using the franchise tag on him over Aaron Kampman.

"porky88" wrote:



I was just going to say, if we have these guys' contracts running out (Kamp, Collins, Pickett, Jolly) is there anyway we could sign and keep all of 'em them under the cap? Then, that comment made me realize that football might not ever be the same.

Back to the subject, Pickett is definitely an integral part in our D, but I think that Raji could do a good job taking over that role. However, Raji is not staying healthy, so I still side with re-signing Pickett.


Then I say let go of Jolly and put Kampman back where he belongs :thumbright:
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porky88
15 years ago

Jolly is an RFA, assuming there is no cap. Packers can tender him at the highest level and there is no way a team will give, I believe, a first and a third for him.

With Pickett, I'd strongly consider using the franchise tag on him over Aaron Kampman.

"coltonja" wrote:



I was just going to say, if we have these guys' contracts running out (Kamp, Collins, Pickett, Jolly) is there anyway we could sign and keep all of 'em them under the cap? Then, that comment made me realize that football might not ever be the same.

Back to the subject, Pickett is definitely an integral part in our D, but I think that Raji could do a good job taking over that role. However, Raji is not staying healthy, so I still side with re-signing Pickett.


Then I say let go of Jolly and put Kampman back where he belongs :thumbright:

"porky88" wrote:



The difference is Kampman will likely not sign a contract with the Packers until he tests the open market. The Packers could offer him a two year deal with incentives, but I'm not sure he takes that. That's why you consider the franchise tag on him, but then you risk losing Pickett who may not resign either as he's set to be a free agent after likely the best season of his career.

Jolly, can be tendered because he's a restricted free agent. Either way, it makes sense to tender Jolly regardless of whether or not you bring Kampman or Pickett or even both of them back. He'll likely come at a reasonable price.
Rockmolder
15 years ago

Jolly is an RFA, assuming there is no cap. Packers can tender him at the highest level and there is no way a team will give, I believe, a first and a third for him.

With Pickett, I'd strongly consider using the franchise tag on him over Aaron Kampman.

"porky88" wrote:



I was just going to say, if we have these guys' contracts running out (Kamp, Collins, Pickett, Jolly) is there anyway we could sign and keep all of 'em them under the cap? Then, that comment made me realize that football might not ever be the same.

Back to the subject, Pickett is definitely an integral part in our D, but I think that Raji could do a good job taking over that role. However, Raji is not staying healthy, so I still side with re-signing Pickett.


Then I say let go of Jolly and put Kampman back where he belongs :thumbright:

"coltonja" wrote:



The difference is Kampman will likely not sign a contract with the Packers until he tests the open market. The Packers could offer him a two year deal with incentives, but I'm not sure he takes that. That's why you consider the franchise tag on him, but then you risk losing Pickett who may not resign either as he's set to be a free agent after likely the best season of his career.

Jolly, can be tendered because he's a restricted free agent. Either way, it makes sense to tender Jolly regardless of whether or not you bring Kampman or Pickett or even both of them back. He'll likely come at a reasonable price.

"porky88" wrote:



What cap, though? I doubt that there'll be a new CBA by next year. WE won't have a salary cap.

And we can use two tags now, right? I know, we can get screwed over quite badly if we get some kind of Hutchinson-poison pill contract, but I think we'd just have to try that one on Kampman, if Pickett won't just resign.

That said, I've been thinking about what we have to do with Kampman. I don't want him back as an OLB, but he's too valuable to just let go....

Maybe we can try getting him back to the DE, position, again. Now, I know that he's too light etc., but hear me out. Kampman was 275 when playing DE. That's light for a 3-4 lineman, but a very good starting point. He's shown that he could easily shed some weigth, by going to 260/265 when playing OLB. In college, he was 282.

Now, I was thinking that he might be able to gain some bulk, get it up to 290 or something. Maybe 285 might even do it, that'd make him as big as Brett Keisel, for instance, who's been a pretty darn good player for the Steelers.

Aaron can obviously hold his point, stop the run and get to the passer. Something Capers looks for in his D-linemen and makes his scheme somewhat unique. I'd love to see them try this.

If it's healthy for Kampy, of course.
wpr
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15 years ago

Jack up the ticket prices. Triple 'em. We have a waiting list, let's test drive it.

24 dollar beers.

Brats 17.95

Then we can get anyone we want, or keep anyone we want.

"dfosterf" wrote:



You are just mean aren't you? :pottytrain2:
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AJistheHawk50
15 years ago
Raji should be playin DE next year with pickett in the middle and jenkins on the other side. jarius wynn seemed to be an ok rotational man from what ive seen him play.
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yooperfan
15 years ago

Jack up the ticket prices. Triple 'em. We have a waiting list, let's test drive it.

24 dollar beers.

Brats 17.95

Then we can get anyone we want, or keep anyone we want.

"dfosterf" wrote:



I'm all for dollar beers at Lambeau or anywhere else but I don't think I could drink 24 during the course of a game and still drive back to the U.P.
Wade
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15 years ago
Things that would tee me off in the offseason:

#2: Not locking up Pickett.
#3: Not being active in free agency in general.
#4: Drafting wide receivers high.
#5: Not being active with respect to safety help either in draft/free agency/trade.
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Wade
  • Wade
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15 years ago

Jack up the ticket prices. Triple 'em. We have a waiting list, let's test drive it.

24 dollar beers.

Brats 17.95

Then we can get anyone we want, or keep anyone we want.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Well, basic economics says that when there is excess demand, the price should adjust upwards. And that waiting list is proof of serious excess demand. Why should current season ticket holders get to capture all that value?

This would cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but I'd raise ticket prices a minumum of 20%/year every year until the season ticket waiting list fell below 5,000 - 10,000.

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