Aaron Rodgers = Top Rated QB in the NFL after Week 8· Page 5

WhiskeySam
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15 years ago

The reason I would like to see Aaron take more chances is not because he is playing bad, Just that I think he could be more productive if he does takes chances. So maybe he has a few more INTs, the results would be more TDs and more Wins also.

Look those who are considered the best QBs for some time. They are all really close in their TD% and INT% to each other. To me this is a guide to where a QB should be to be successful.

Favre TD 5.0 INT 3.3
Montana TD 5.1 INT 2.6
Young TD 5.6 INT 2.6
Brady Td 5.4 INT 2.3
Manning TD 5.6 INT 2.7
Marino TD 5.0 INT 3.0

Good thing is Rodgers is in the mix. His TD% is right there with all of them at 5.2. His INT% is lower at 2.0.

I think this gives him the room to go for it a little more. while it may cost an INT or two over the season, I think it will endup creating about 5-10 more TDs.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:

Interesting stats. The league average right now is 2.9, so Rodgers is well below that at .9 this season. Rodgers taking sacks instead of INTs or incompletions is definitely helping his rating, but arguably hurting the team. The question is, does he need to take more chances or should he be scrambling/throwing the ball away more? There are other ways to save yardage by not taking a sack than taking chances and getting picked off.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:

I think a lot of it is, that when he takes a sack, or even throws the ball away, much of the time, we end up punting, giving the ball to the other team. Now if he throws the ball into a tight situation, say 1/2 are INTs and 1/2 are complete. I know it will never end up that clean but just as example. So those INTs give the ball to them, much the same as punting would have done. But the half that make it, keep the drive alive and can produce more TDs.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:

I'm not opposed to this idea as long as the chances he takes on third down are down the field where an INT is essentially the same as a punt. We don't want to get in a situation where they're open field picks that have a good chance of becoming pick-6s.

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PackFanWithTwins
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15 years ago

#42

Either way I am pretty happy. If Rodgers keeps playing like he is, when the rest of the team catches up with him we will be great. If he improves some we will just be that much better.

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zombieslayer
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15 years ago

#43

Rodgers is playing at a level far above whot 90% of people ever expected in his second year behind center.

And the NFL is full of stats... Howver...

Here is one stat I would like to see....

I fuigure Rodgers was in the pocket for a total of 1 minute and 44 seconds last week against the Vikings on passing downs.

How long are QB's like Manning, Breeze, Brett and others spending in the pocket. Or I should say allowed to be in the pocket.

If the O line can give him an extra 1.5 seconds per down... That would give him and extra 1 Minute and 1.5 seconds longer to make reads and let plays develop.

I bet you that Manning, Big Ben, Breeze, and so many others are getting that extra minute per game.

So.. His numbers are amazing.

"RaiderPride" wrote:

Thank you RP.

I've watched P Manning play his entire career as I generally watch games from sports bars and get to see bits and pieces of every game played while I'm there. His ENTIRE career, he's had at least 1.5-2 seconds more than Rodgers has had this year. It's easy to say just how great of a QB Manning is. I'm not saying he isn't. I put him at #5 in my greatest QBs since 1976. But I'm using him as example because, well, I don't like him.

Let's switch this. Let's put Manning in Rodgers shoes. Now, Manning is about as mobile as, well, a tree sloth.

Aaron Rodgers currently leads the NFL in rushing yardage for QBs.

Swap 'em. Put Manning behind this joke of a OL and see what kind of TD/INT ratio he'd have. Let's see how many yards he can generate a game. Better yet, let's see how many games he WINS.

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WhiskeySam
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15 years ago

#44

"zombieslayer" wrote:

"RaiderPride" wrote:

It would be better than you think, but it wouldn't be as good as he is now. We went through this 10 years ago with Marino. No one realized how bad his line was (even though they could never run the football) until he retired. Once he was gone, it became obvious Marino's quick release combined with his pre-snap recognition enabled him to get the ball out quickly to the open man in spite of a below average O-line.

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brnt247
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15 years ago

#45

Most important statistic outside of wins for a team is turnover margin. We've got a 16-5 turnover ratio, if we keep that up we'll be in the playoffs.

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zombieslayer
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15 years ago

#46

Marino had the quickest release ever. He was like Clint Eastwood in the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

Manning has a quick release, but he would have been shot six times by Marino before he gets his gun out if they were in a gun fight.

So agreed, he'd be good, but he wouldn't be chasing Favre's numbers right now, that's for sure. Neither would he have a Ring.

My man Donald Driver

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WhiskeySam
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15 years ago

#47

"zombieslayer" wrote:

I completely agree with that.

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