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zombieslayer
15 years ago

I really, really hate it when people come with 'he knows how to win'. That statement tells me nothing. Trent Dilfer knew how to win. Please raise your hands if you'd rather have Trent Dilfer than Aaron Rodgers.

Warren Moon went just over .500 (102-101) in his career and went .300 (3-7) in the play-offs. He's a HoF-er because he was a great player. The supporting cast just never got them far.

I'd rather have Rodgers on this team than Roethlisberger. Don't get me wrong, Big Ben is a good quarterback and he's doing a suprisingly good job of carrying the offense, but having that Steelers defense sure does help.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I'd rather have Rodgers than Big Ben as well. I think this is the first year we can honestly say Big Ben is having an elite year. His first SB, he was in the right place at the right time. The 2nd SB he played a better game, but the opposing QB played an even better game except one crucial play that completely turned the game around.

'Tis a team game. Rodgers has gone above and beyond what ANY of us expected him to do, with the possible exception of Cal2GreenBay (where is that guy?). I don't think any of us saw him doing this well back in '05 when he was drafted.

We had a porous D last year that lost us a lot of games. This year, our OL is the 2nd worst in the NFL and it's amazing Rodgers has a 100+ rating with this horrid OL.

And yes, Warren Moon deserved being in the Hall. Had he played in the NFL since the beginning (let's face it, at the time, the NFL was weary of black QBs), Brett Favre may have to play a few more years to catch Warren Moon's records and Peyton Manning would die before he catches Moon's records.
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Greg C.
15 years ago

I really, really hate it when people come with 'he knows how to win'. That statement tells me nothing. Trent Dilfer knew how to win. Please raise your hands if you'd rather have Trent Dilfer than Aaron Rodgers.

Warren Moon went just over .500 (102-101) in his career and went .300 (3-7) in the play-offs. He's a HoF-er because he was a great player. The supporting cast just never got them far.

I'd rather have Rodgers on this team than Roethlisberger. Don't get me wrong, Big Ben is a good quarterback and he's doing a suprisingly good job of carrying the offense, but having that Steelers defense sure does help.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I don't like the phrase "he knows how to win," but there are definitely some players who perform in the clutch and are able to rally their teammates around them, and others who are not so good at that.

Warren Moon was mostly on bad teams, but he was not a choker by any means. And of course Roethlisberger benefits from playing on a team with one of the better defenses in the league, but his ability to extend plays and perform in the clutch is inspiring for his teammates, even if it doesn't show up on the stat sheets. I think Rodgers is showing that same kind of leadership for our team right now, but he's just getting started.
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dhazer
15 years ago

He would "absolutely" take Roethlisberger over Rodgers? Why exactly?

Oh, right, because "he just knows how to win."

It's those intangibles, dontchaknow.

"nerdmann" wrote:




I gave ya a +1 NON because you made a good point all he does is win.

btw i don't think much of any stats right now for the packers because we have had 4 byes already this year. Now after we play the likes of the Cowboys, Steelers and Ravens defenses and he has those stats ill be impressed.


As far as being offensive player of the month i give him credit for winning that and only playing 1 pro team.

"dhazer" wrote:




Rodgers doesn't create the schedule, you know.
You can look at it that way, or you can say Rodgers has produced even though he's getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

"nerdmann" wrote:




he hasn't been sacked that much more ๐Ÿ˜› like i said if he can put up those numbers in dec i will be impressed, but im willing to put money on that he won't.

"dhazer" wrote:




Bring the sack numbers, bitch.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I brought the sack numbers Biotch ๐Ÿ˜› look in the thread about the o-line
Rodgers 25 times
Cassell 24 times
and i believe Big Ben 22 times I'm at work on a very slow connection but its something like that for big ben and Favre i believe is 18.
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mi_keys
15 years ago

He would "absolutely" take Roethlisberger over Rodgers? Why exactly?

Oh, right, because "he just knows how to win."

It's those intangibles, dontchaknow.

"dhazer" wrote:




I gave ya a +1 NON because you made a good point all he does is win.

btw i don't think much of any stats right now for the packers because we have had 4 byes already this year. Now after we play the likes of the Cowboys, Steelers and Ravens defenses and he has those stats ill be impressed.

As far as being offensive player of the month i give him credit for winning that and only playing 1 pro team.

"nerdmann" wrote:




Rodgers doesn't create the schedule, you know.
You can look at it that way, or you can say Rodgers has produced even though he's getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

"dhazer" wrote:




he hasn't been sacked that much more ๐Ÿ˜› like i said if he can put up those numbers in dec i will be impressed, but im willing to put money on that he won't.

"nerdmann" wrote:




Bring the sack numbers, bitch.

"dhazer" wrote:



I brought the sack numbers Biotch ๐Ÿ˜› look in the thread about the o-line
Rodgers 25 times
Cassell 24 times
and i believe Big Ben 22 times I'm at work on a very slow connection but its something like that for big ben and Favre i believe is 18.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Rodgers 25 times in 6 games (4.17/game), 110.8 rating
Cassell 24 times in 7 games (3.43/game), 73.2 rating
Campbell 20 times in 7 games (2.86/game), 85.8 rating
Roethlisberger 20 times in 7 games (2.86/game), 102.6 rating
Edwards 19 times in 7 games (2.71/game), 73.0 rating
Favre 18 times in 7 games (2.57/game), 102.2 rating

...and the qb with the highest rating:
Manning 2 times in 6 games (0.33/game), 114.5 rating
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Zero2Cool (21m) : Bleh, that only impacts two games.
Zero2Cool (28m) : Packers are gonna get 3rd place division schedule next year.
Mucky Tundra (1h) : Kanata, seek help! lol
beast (3h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status
Zero2Cool (3h) : Forgot there was even a game last night haha
TheKanataThrilla (3h) : That was terrible.
TheKanataThrilla (3h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.
beast (4h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (4h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
beast (4h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing
Zero2Cool (5h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is
Zero2Cool (5h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true
beast (5h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management
wpr (8h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Mucky Tundra (15h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
beast (16h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years
Zero2Cool (22h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
packerfanoutwest (22h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it
beast (26-Dec) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done
Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.
Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore
packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!
Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!
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beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
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