zombieslayer
15 years ago

I really, really hate it when people come with 'he knows how to win'. That statement tells me nothing. Trent Dilfer knew how to win. Please raise your hands if you'd rather have Trent Dilfer than Aaron Rodgers.

Warren Moon went just over .500 (102-101) in his career and went .300 (3-7) in the play-offs. He's a HoF-er because he was a great player. The supporting cast just never got them far.

I'd rather have Rodgers on this team than Roethlisberger. Don't get me wrong, Big Ben is a good quarterback and he's doing a suprisingly good job of carrying the offense, but having that Steelers defense sure does help.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I'd rather have Rodgers than Big Ben as well. I think this is the first year we can honestly say Big Ben is having an elite year. His first SB, he was in the right place at the right time. The 2nd SB he played a better game, but the opposing QB played an even better game except one crucial play that completely turned the game around.

'Tis a team game. Rodgers has gone above and beyond what ANY of us expected him to do, with the possible exception of Cal2GreenBay (where is that guy?). I don't think any of us saw him doing this well back in '05 when he was drafted.

We had a porous D last year that lost us a lot of games. This year, our OL is the 2nd worst in the NFL and it's amazing Rodgers has a 100+ rating with this horrid OL.

And yes, Warren Moon deserved being in the Hall. Had he played in the NFL since the beginning (let's face it, at the time, the NFL was weary of black QBs), Brett Favre may have to play a few more years to catch Warren Moon's records and Peyton Manning would die before he catches Moon's records.
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Greg C.
15 years ago

I really, really hate it when people come with 'he knows how to win'. That statement tells me nothing. Trent Dilfer knew how to win. Please raise your hands if you'd rather have Trent Dilfer than Aaron Rodgers.

Warren Moon went just over .500 (102-101) in his career and went .300 (3-7) in the play-offs. He's a HoF-er because he was a great player. The supporting cast just never got them far.

I'd rather have Rodgers on this team than Roethlisberger. Don't get me wrong, Big Ben is a good quarterback and he's doing a suprisingly good job of carrying the offense, but having that Steelers defense sure does help.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I don't like the phrase "he knows how to win," but there are definitely some players who perform in the clutch and are able to rally their teammates around them, and others who are not so good at that.

Warren Moon was mostly on bad teams, but he was not a choker by any means. And of course Roethlisberger benefits from playing on a team with one of the better defenses in the league, but his ability to extend plays and perform in the clutch is inspiring for his teammates, even if it doesn't show up on the stat sheets. I think Rodgers is showing that same kind of leadership for our team right now, but he's just getting started.
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dhazer
15 years ago

He would "absolutely" take Roethlisberger over Rodgers? Why exactly?

Oh, right, because "he just knows how to win."

It's those intangibles, dontchaknow.

"nerdmann" wrote:




I gave ya a +1 NON because you made a good point all he does is win.

btw i don't think much of any stats right now for the packers because we have had 4 byes already this year. Now after we play the likes of the Cowboys, Steelers and Ravens defenses and he has those stats ill be impressed.


As far as being offensive player of the month i give him credit for winning that and only playing 1 pro team.

"dhazer" wrote:




Rodgers doesn't create the schedule, you know.
You can look at it that way, or you can say Rodgers has produced even though he's getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

"nerdmann" wrote:




he hasn't been sacked that much more 😛 like i said if he can put up those numbers in dec i will be impressed, but im willing to put money on that he won't.

"dhazer" wrote:




Bring the sack numbers, bitch.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I brought the sack numbers Biotch 😛 look in the thread about the o-line
Rodgers 25 times
Cassell 24 times
and i believe Big Ben 22 times I'm at work on a very slow connection but its something like that for big ben and Favre i believe is 18.
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mi_keys
15 years ago

He would "absolutely" take Roethlisberger over Rodgers? Why exactly?

Oh, right, because "he just knows how to win."

It's those intangibles, dontchaknow.

"dhazer" wrote:




I gave ya a +1 NON because you made a good point all he does is win.

btw i don't think much of any stats right now for the packers because we have had 4 byes already this year. Now after we play the likes of the Cowboys, Steelers and Ravens defenses and he has those stats ill be impressed.

As far as being offensive player of the month i give him credit for winning that and only playing 1 pro team.

"nerdmann" wrote:




Rodgers doesn't create the schedule, you know.
You can look at it that way, or you can say Rodgers has produced even though he's getting sacked more than any other QB in the league.

"dhazer" wrote:




he hasn't been sacked that much more 😛 like i said if he can put up those numbers in dec i will be impressed, but im willing to put money on that he won't.

"nerdmann" wrote:




Bring the sack numbers, bitch.

"dhazer" wrote:



I brought the sack numbers Biotch 😛 look in the thread about the o-line
Rodgers 25 times
Cassell 24 times
and i believe Big Ben 22 times I'm at work on a very slow connection but its something like that for big ben and Favre i believe is 18.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Rodgers 25 times in 6 games (4.17/game), 110.8 rating
Cassell 24 times in 7 games (3.43/game), 73.2 rating
Campbell 20 times in 7 games (2.86/game), 85.8 rating
Roethlisberger 20 times in 7 games (2.86/game), 102.6 rating
Edwards 19 times in 7 games (2.71/game), 73.0 rating
Favre 18 times in 7 games (2.57/game), 102.2 rating

...and the qb with the highest rating:
Manning 2 times in 6 games (0.33/game), 114.5 rating
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