How do you know, Hawk led the team in tackles his rookie year, was either 1st or 2nd his 2nd year, now becuase he was slowed by injury his 3rd year and was moved to a position he had never played, and is not being utilized this year, because of a new system he is labeled a bust!!!

So calling Teds other 4 1st rnd picks busts, is not that much different.

A-rod has a losing record, the other two couldn't even start at the beginning of the season, so unless they actually contribute the next 4 years, they are currently busts.

If you don't see the sarcasm in my posts, then realize I am damn tired of some on this forum calling players busts when all they are doing is there jobs!!!!

I applaud Hawk for being damn mad that he isn't getting playing time, a lot of guys would just go sit down and collect their paycheck and not worry about it.

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Sorry I missed the sarcasm. I guess that is what happens when I am doing two things at the same time. -1 for me.

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Ugh, spare me with with the whole "Barnett makes impact plays b.s." He made one play against the sad Lions and turned into a Samurai.



Well, if Hawk is only playing 9 snaps in one game can this possibly lead to his production rate?

I swear, if the Packers get rid of Hawk come the end of the season I will be extremely pissed off. No, its not because I am attached to him as a fan...its because when he is on the field he makes plays. To be a good player, every play doesn't have to be an impact play. Hawk is our impact player.

Hawk>Barnett
Hawk>Bishop
Hawk>Chillar

Boom.

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The performance of our LBrs shouldn't even be a big topic of conversation right now, especially after holding Peterson to 2.2 ypc. I feel like this is just fallout from last season when we couldn't get enough of attacking them. As a group they are performing admirably.

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that's only because he doesn't make big plays but i think he is making the dirty job...so please, coaching staff put him in the conditions to make a big plays...

i think i have read somewhere that clay's big plays on sunday happened when aj was on the field taking block off from him

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You don't change a defense so one of your players can perform better, you do it so the unit as a whole will play better football. Our defense as a whole uis no worse than they where as a 4-3 last year and this is in the very first year of the transistion. Hawk, however, has been going on with his steady decline since his first season.

I know that Hawk picks up a lot of blockers, but he still doesn't play with that fiery mentality. The wait and see aproach worked great at times in the slower college game, but it doesn't here.

Don't get me wrong, he's a solid player. He's a pretty sure tackler, sees the play develop and sacrifices himself a lot by just plugging the gap, but currently, he's being outplayed by Clay Matthews and Brandon Chillar.

He's just not worth what we're currently paying him, if you ask me. Barnett is still the better player out of the two. Even in this scheme. Our coaching staff sees that as well, obviously. If he doesn't take a pay cut, we're still deep enough, as the article mentions. Go with Barnett - Chiller as the starters, Bishop as the primary back-up and groom a 4th-6th rounder.

Hawk is a good player but I think with the 3-4 he is not the athlete you see at LB in other really good 3-4 defenses.

If you look at the interior LB's on the big time 3-4 defenses it's fairly obvious Hawk is not that kind of player in terms of speed and just overall athletic ability.

Bishop moves around out there more like a 3-4 interior LB. The problem is too often he moves too far out of his responsibility at times and is inconsistant or he would be on the field more too.

The flip side of this is how well Chillar has responded to the new scheme. At the end of the day that's what's keeping Hawk off the field more. We all wondered who might pop out and really take off in this defense and Chillar has been far and away the big surprise guy there.

It's pretty simple. If Hawk wants more snaps he has to figure out how to play better than Chillar and there are portions of games where it seems like he's in on almost every play.

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Desmond Bishop should be getting more snaps....

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Absolutely 0 of Clay's big plays had anything to do with Hawk. Funny thing is that Chillar actually helped on the 2nd sack, him and Jenkins got in on Culpepper and forced him to try and run out of pocket and he ran right into Clay.

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I REALLY wish he would play more downs. I'd like to see what he can do in the regular season against #1's.