Illegal Immigrant Costume causes mass concern· Page 4

zombieslayer
Registered

15 years ago

In my opinion, the time has come for citizens of other nations to take responsibility for the crappy conditions in their countries. If their countries are so unbearable that they have to creep illegally into supposed havens like the United States and Europe, they should be banding together to overthrow their governments and set up regimes responsive to their needs and wants. It's been said that a people gets the government it deserves, and I believe that is more or less true. I certainly believe that we Americans, as the (to quote George Carlin) "weak, unimaginative, frightened people" we have become, deserve the intrusive, overbearing government we now have.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Edward Abbey, one of my all-time favorite authors, said that we should turn back illegal aliens but hand them a rifle and tell them to finish up the revolution.

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#32

Cheesey, you'd make an amazing writer for propagandic speeches.

"Rockmolder" wrote:

Well, i don't believe in being "politically correct", i believe in being honest.
If you come out and say exactly what you mean, people can't say "I didn't understand your point."
So i make it clear what I'm saying.
I don't do it to be mean, i do it so there is NO way someone can twist what i mean into something else.
Believe me, i am NOT against people from other countries coming here to live.
IF they do it LEGALLY. Otherwise they should stay the hell out of the United States.
We have laws on that for a REASON. And it's to protect everyone born here or who FOLLOWED THE LAWS and did it right. Is it fair to those that worked hard to earn their citizenship LEGALLY to just allow law breakers to stay here? I don't think so.

"Cheesey" wrote:

I don't like illegal immigrants. They're illegal for a reason.

Point I was trying to make is that you just say that lefties want them here, and you can't do them any harm, and they want to hug them and what not.

I consider myself more on the political left side than the right side and I'm not a fan of illegal immigrants. I doubt most 'lefties' want their country flooeded with illegal immigrants. Or any person, for that matter.

"Rockmolder" wrote:

Then you don't listen to the "lefties" here then.
Let me put it this way........i have never met a conservative, or "right winger" that wanted ANY illegals here. I have ONLY heard "lefties" spout that it's not "fair" to kick them out of the country.
So on the right, you have hardly ANY one that wants law breakers to have a free ride to break laws that we made for a REASON, and those on the left, not ALL on the left, but a big enough amount of them that we bend over backwards to not "offend" them that feel we "owe" these law breakers something.
If it wasn't those on the left that keep fighting for the law breakers, we would be able to take action against the people that should NOT be in our country.

RaiderPride
Senior Member

15 years ago

#33

Halloween Costumes...

This one made me laugh... Even though I am Catholic.

Check out the priest costume... With a little boy giving him a hummer.

http://www.theginblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/halloween-priest.jpg

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Dulak
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#34

"RaiderPride" wrote:

hey raider - you missed my post near the begining of the thread - talked about the exact same costume (got a kick out of it)

Gravedigga
Registered

15 years ago

#35

Legal citizens do all of that as well. Bankruptcy laws were changed because so many had abused them by accumulating massive amounts of debt and then using their get-out-of-debt free card.

Hospitals can't turn away anyone in need of care, nor would I want them to. The system is abused enough as it is with people receiving 6 figure operations for me to care too much about someone taking up a bed for a night.

I apologize if I'm playing Devil's Advocate too much, but it's funny to me that people attribute a systemic recession to the lowest rung of the ladder.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

Legal citizens, you said it. Legal citizens who have to deal with the consequences of ripping off AMERICAN banks with bad credit. These illegals dont give 2 shits. They just go back to their country. They dont have to deal with the repercussions of bad credit or bankruptcy. Maybe you're just not exposed to it or haven't been too much but I have. I've seen many do it and some were friends. From my experience, they're good people but are a drain on our economy.

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Gravedigga
Registered

15 years ago

#36

Oh yea, one other thing, they don't pay taxes. Lol, why should they.

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#37

That another problem. They take from the pot, and put nothing back. And what reason is there for them to do anything to become legal, when they KNOW no one is trying to prosecute them and deport them?
There's no incentive to change, or for new people coming over the boarder to do it legally.
As long as there is no consequences, why bother with the legalities?

If you put laws on the books, then do NOTHING to enforce them, no one will obey them.
Pretty easy, if you ask me.

MassPackersFan
Member

15 years ago

#38

Cheesey, you'd make an amazing writer for propagandic speeches.

"Cheesey" wrote:

"Rockmolder" wrote:

"Cheesey" wrote:

"Rockmolder" wrote:

I'm not arguing about fairness or unfairness. All I'm saying is that a) it would be near impossible to kick them out, and b) it would have negative consequences that people love to ignore. Not ALL the consequences would be negative, obviously.

Another thing... is it impossible to have a conversation like this without dropping the names and labels on people? Or is it important for you to put people into a box marked "lefties" so you feel more comfortable about dissenting/diverse opinions?

MassPackersFan
Member

15 years ago

#39

"Gravedigga" wrote:

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

Hey, it goes without saying that illegal immigrants ripping off the system is not a good thing. I'm not arguing that. I'm just pointing out that they also serve as a crutch to certain aspects of our economy as well, not to mention the pure logistical nightmare of what you're suggesting the solution is.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#40

Mass, i'm sorry that "labels" offend you. Thats not my intent. I use them because it make it clear which group i'm speaking of. Fact is, the MAJORITY of people that think the illegal aliens breaking the law are people that are on the left, or what would be called "liberals". Very few on the "right", or "conservatives" think thats fine.
When you are talking face to face, it's easier to make points then the time you have to try to write a few comments.
And, i bet you know which people i mean when i use those "labels". Just as people label me a "righty" or "conservative." I myself don't mind being labeled, cause it pretty much sums up the way i think.
If it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck....so why not call it so?

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