beast
15 years ago

Yeah I'll take in Garcia, as long as Flynn had a chance to demonstrate something and another player is IRed and not cut just to fit Garcia on the roster.

I'd stay away from Harrington though, there's plenty of other mediocre QBs that I have more faith in.

"dfosterf" wrote:



This is the entire point of picking up a Garcia.

Anyone that is still not understanding this....

Rodgers goes down. In comes Flynn. Flynn sucks. (this is scenario, not a prediction)

Now what?

As far as what Garcia wants. I want to have 12 girlfriends, no wives and no one bitching at me.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



As long as we're not cutting anyone I'm okay with bring someone in.... and if it's Rouse getting IRed then I wouldn't mind bringing someone in... but I'd be a little worried in depth at Saftey with no back-up SS.... then again I'm already a little worried baout that.
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masseyattack
15 years ago
There are a few candidates to be cut who the Packers surely wouldn't miss: one of the fullbacks, Dietrich-Smith, Underwood, Brad Jones and Brett Swain. I can see all of the above being inactive come game-day, and the majority of them could be stashed on the practice squad.

Garcia would be a great pickup. The argument put forward that there are plenty of half-decent quarterbacks on the street (thus making it easier to pick up one if Rodgers or Flynn goes down) does not take into account how long it would take Garcia or another veteran to pick up the Packers playbook. Having a veteran on board now would improve the team.

Garcia might not win the Packers a Superbowl, but if Rodgers is out for 3 or 4 weeks in the middle of the season, having Garcia instead of Flynn at quarterback could make the difference between a playoff push (with a returning Rodgers) and a losing season.
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xavierlee9
15 years ago

I'd take Garcia over Flynn also. I would even cut Flynn to open a spot for Garcia. He gives us our best chance to win if Rogers had to leave the game.
Plus I have always liked Garcia.

"DGB454" wrote:



Okay honestly.... I think your a little crazy.... or just had a crazy spell or huge man love for Garcia or something....

A 39 year old QB who hasn't been in the Packers system, plus he's injury prone and hasn't play 14 games since 2002

over

A 24 year old QB who has been in the Packers system and has a heck lot of upside and could be the #2 for years.


If your taking cutting Flynn for Garcia I hope your planing on drafting a QB in next year's draft. Because getting rid of Flynn could mess up the #2 for years and if Rodger goes down then (you know when Garcia is retired than the Packers are in huge trouble... can't just think about one year)

"beast" wrote:



Flynn won't want to stay a back up forever. He didn't come into the NFL to back up. We aren't grooming Flynn to take Rodgers spot. We are grooming him as trade bait for the future. Rogers is our future. there is no point keeping 2 young QB's on the staff that have futures as starters.(If Flynn does have a future as a starter.) Garcia can be a reliable back up for a few years.

I would prefer to keep Flynn as our #3 and continue to develop him. Then we trade him.

"DGB454" wrote:




How did he not come to the NFL to back up? He was a seventh round pick for crypes sakes. He'll be lucky to be a career 2.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

I'd take Garcia over Flynn also. I would even cut Flynn to open a spot for Garcia. He gives us our best chance to win if Rogers had to leave the game.
Plus I have always liked Garcia.

"xavierlee9" wrote:



Okay honestly.... I think your a little crazy.... or just had a crazy spell or huge man love for Garcia or something....

A 39 year old QB who hasn't been in the Packers system, plus he's injury prone and hasn't play 14 games since 2002

over

A 24 year old QB who has been in the Packers system and has a heck lot of upside and could be the #2 for years.


If your taking cutting Flynn for Garcia I hope your planing on drafting a QB in next year's draft. Because getting rid of Flynn could mess up the #2 for years and if Rodger goes down then (you know when Garcia is retired than the Packers are in huge trouble... can't just think about one year)

"DGB454" wrote:



Flynn won't want to stay a back up forever. He didn't come into the NFL to back up. We aren't grooming Flynn to take Rodgers spot. We are grooming him as trade bait for the future. Rogers is our future. there is no point keeping 2 young QB's on the staff that have futures as starters.(If Flynn does have a future as a starter.) Garcia can be a reliable back up for a few years.

I would prefer to keep Flynn as our #3 and continue to develop him. Then we trade him.

"beast" wrote:




How did he not come to the NFL to back up? He was a seventh round pick for crypes sakes. He'll be lucky to be a career 2.

"DGB454" wrote:



I agree. And I would like to get something in return for him, if he keeps being a solid back-up. Maybe when one of our coaches leaves to another team, they'll lobby to get him over there.

That's how we traded Matt Hasselback away to the Seahawks and got something pretty nice in return. Hasselbeck, 17th and 7th round pick in return for the 10th pick and a 3rd rounder. (Which got them Hutchinson and us Reynolds. You win some, you lose some, lol.)

Same goes for Brunell. We drafted him in the 5th and eventually traded him away for a 3rd and a 5th rounder.

If Flynn can show something next pre-season, chances are that we'll be able to trade him away and get quite a bit more in return than just a 7th rounder. If Rodgers does go down, you're in a high risk high reward situation. We could go down horribly or get a Cassel-like season out of Flynn, who will be carried by his receivers. I'm guessing that it'll be somewhere in between.
DGB454
15 years ago

I'd take Garcia over Flynn also. I would even cut Flynn to open a spot for Garcia. He gives us our best chance to win if Rogers had to leave the game.
Plus I have always liked Garcia.

"xavierlee9" wrote:



Okay honestly.... I think your a little crazy.... or just had a crazy spell or huge man love for Garcia or something....

A 39 year old QB who hasn't been in the Packers system, plus he's injury prone and hasn't play 14 games since 2002

over

A 24 year old QB who has been in the Packers system and has a heck lot of upside and could be the #2 for years.


If your taking cutting Flynn for Garcia I hope your planing on drafting a QB in next year's draft. Because getting rid of Flynn could mess up the #2 for years and if Rodger goes down then (you know when Garcia is retired than the Packers are in huge trouble... can't just think about one year)

"DGB454" wrote:



Flynn won't want to stay a back up forever. He didn't come into the NFL to back up. We aren't grooming Flynn to take Rodgers spot. We are grooming him as trade bait for the future. Rogers is our future. there is no point keeping 2 young QB's on the staff that have futures as starters.(If Flynn does have a future as a starter.) Garcia can be a reliable back up for a few years.

I would prefer to keep Flynn as our #3 and continue to develop him. Then we trade him.

"beast" wrote:




How did he not come to the NFL to back up? He was a seventh round pick for crypes sakes. He'll be lucky to be a career 2.

"DGB454" wrote:



I forget...Where did Tom Brady come in at? 6th round?
The point is that no one comes into football with the hopes of being a back up. If Flynn continues to develop I'm sure he will want to start somewhere.
We don't know how good he will be but I'm sure he want's to get good enough to start.
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