dfosterf
15 years ago
Everyone understands that if Harrell clears waivers and lands on the IR that he does not count against the 53 man roster, correct?

I too do not want him on that 53. I want him injured/waived/IR'd for healing and see where we are next year..
Scottish_Packer
15 years ago
dfosterf - that wasn't a rant!? 🙂 Lets hope you never have to rant.
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dfosterf
15 years ago
Trust me, I warn folk, lol

For planning purpose, just hit ignore, lol
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Oh, you do want him on IR. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

I think we can all remain confident that Harrell will clear waivers, and if he doesn't, good riddance, say I.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
Persistence pays. At least when getting 2nd, 3rd or 10th opinions. While I have been hopeful that Harrell would come through and be productive. As time goes on, for him I am just hoping that he will be able to stand up in another year.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
DakotaT
15 years ago

As far as I am concerned, Justin Harrell is like that really sweet girl who always smiles brightly every time you walk up to her, yet every time you try to iron down a time and day for a date, she's always elusive, full of mysterious excuses why she can't actually go out with you. You keep trying and trying, because you're convinced she must like you -- she's so friendly, after all -- but she's like the mist: you can grab her, but she slips between your fingers. Then one day you wake up and realize that she's that friendly with EVERYONE, and it suddenly hits you: If she treats everyone the same, that means you're not special, and that you never really had a chance in the first place.

I know that seems kind of harsh, but I'm pretty tired of the "I'm better! I'm worse!" drama that is Justin Harrell. He's been given plenty of time to demonstrate his value and he's done anything but. Spare him, the team, and the fans the misery and let him go already.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Nobody has ever accused you of being overly emotionally attached to a player. lol Possibly this is an exception...going the opposite way...I will explain in a moment.

Let's get down to business, as that is almost invariably how you roll, and dfoster --most of the time.

He came in to this league with an 8 million dollar guarantee. He got no signing bonus, but we have been shoveling $$$ his way in the past two years. He got a multi-million dollar bonus this past off-season. That money is all gone, and he is quite close to that guaranteed portion of his contract.

He has a 460k base with a 186k LTBE for this year. He has NO PRSB, we paid as we played, cap-hit wise for that. He will not see that 186k ltbe either, because he has to (probably) be on the active roster in order to get it, week-to-week.

This one is not directed at you Non, as you already know it.

HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR PUP LIKE HE WAS LAST YEAR.

I'm not going to explain that--I have 3 times---Now anybody that still doesn't get it can find out for themselves.


HE CANNOT GO DIRECTLY TO INJURED RESERVE

I have already explained that once--just once-- so slightly smaller type, lol, but again, if that is not habla'd---too bad--it was explained already ---

(Again, not directed at you, Non)

THE PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN IR (paid $$$) AND A RELEASE IS NOT $460, 000. IT IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO ZERO as in $0, nad zilch squadoosh, diddly squat-shit....etc.

Anybody ever hear of an injury settlement?

Again, all has been explained---AT LENGTH-- If you have Dfosterf on ignore, I understand, but Jesus H Cripes I have seen so many false assumptions on this issue... someone needs to PM the member that does have me on ignore and tell him/her to possibly check in on at least this issue.

(AGAIN not directed at you, Non--I happen to know you have stayed up to date on those info posts by having read your posts)

So, what will happen with Justin? Yes, he will be "sent" to IR---but again, not directly.

The official designation will be "Injured/waived" WAIVED



...as in ----eligible for pick up by any team willing to acknowledge him as an injured player and further willing to accept him as such.

THEN, if he clears waivers, we can EITHEREITHER place him on IR--with his 460k salary burden OR release him WITH AN INJURY SETTLEMENT THAT WILL LIKELY BE THE SAME AS HIS SALARY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Business is business. There is the business side of it.

That is the process he will go through, regardless if he is "cut loose" or "stashed on IR"


This is not a rant, this is a repeat performance of stuff already said.

We all know the other option is to make him part of the 53, in which case Dfosterf WILL be publishing a rant post.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




I really think you should direct all posts of rant caliber directly to me. That way you get off your chest, everyone reads it, and nobody's feelings get hurt.
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Greg C.
15 years ago
Like most people, I don't see much reason to be optimistic about Justin Harrell. But whatever drama there is in this situation is costing the team very little, if anything, at this point. Harrell is a backup defensive lineman. We have several of those on the roster, and only a few of them are going to stick.

Like the Brian Brohm thing, it's frustrating because of the high expectations and the amount of money involved. But the Packers won't gain much by cutting either of these players loose right now. It is getting close with Harrell, though. I admit that.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I see an enormous difference between the Harrell and Brohm situations. When I'm in, say, a dance competition, I identify in a lot of ways with Brohm: thrust onto a big stage, feeling overwhelmed, in my head and taking a long time to get the instinctual feel for things. These are psychological problems that can usually be overcome with practice. Once I stop worrying about the exact little details, I usually start flowing and get in the zone. I think Brohm will get there.

Harrell is a totally different story. Harrell's psychology seems to be intact, but physically, he not only cannot perform at a basic level, he risks his future health every time he steps on the field. If it were just a matter of giving Harrell a little more time to get accustomed mentally to the game, I would be all for staying patient with him. But when I as a fan have to wonder whether he's endangering the integrity of his lower extremities, while fretting that he's taking a roster spot from a healthy player, I think it's time to move on.
UserPostedImage
15 years ago
Sounds like he isn't risking his future health, though? At least based on this latest doctor's words.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Shop long enough and you can find yourself a doctor to give you Propofol to help you sleep.
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