DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Yeah if we can't get down the penalties then something is wrong with the coaching... big time.
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dhpackr
16 years ago

sure along with staying healthy, playing solid defense and limiting costly penalties and turnovers.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



If we:
1) Stay healthy,
2) Play solid D,
3) limit penalties,
4) limit turnovers,

We can win the SB without a running game.
Easily.

So once again, screw the run. I'll take a top 5 D, and keep our top 5 O, limit turnovers, stay healthy, and enjoy a deep Playoff run that will hopefully result in a SB win.

"dhpackr" wrote:



that would be great!
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Gravedigga
16 years ago

sure along with staying healthy, playing solid defense and limiting costly penalties and turnovers.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



If we:
1) Stay healthy,
2) Play solid D,
3) limit penalties,
4) limit turnovers,

We can win the SB without a running game.
Easily.

So once again, screw the run. I'll take a top 5 D, and keep our top 5 O, limit turnovers, stay healthy, and enjoy a deep Playoff run that will hopefully result in a SB win.

"dhpackr" wrote:



That's asking a lot from Aaron. Also, Tom Brady is back and healthy. Let's talk in terms of making it to super bowl 🙂 That team is gonna be nasty. Seems like they add 2 or 3 additional pro bowlers every season.
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DarkaneRules
16 years ago
It's so true man... The Patriots with Fred Taylor and Joey Galloway = SO NOT FAIR
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zombieslayer
16 years ago



That's asking a lot from Aaron. Also, Tom Brady is back and healthy. Let's talk in terms of making it to super bowl 🙂 That team is gonna be nasty. Seems like they add 2 or 3 additional pro bowlers every season.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Grave - Read the stats I came up with in this thread:
http://www.packershome.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=4863 

A solid QB (doesn't even have to be great) and a #1 D wins a SB. Running game? Nice to have, but not necessary.
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MassPackersFan
16 years ago

Compared to the 1st round, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th are later, yes. Ok. I'm fine using 2nd through 4th rounders to develop an O-line. What matters more to me is DEVELOPING one. Our last good O-line was together for years, intact. That is why it was so good. They have to work as a unit and be completely comfortable together.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



We dont have guys that can get push in the run game. That's not something they're going to develop.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



So you disagree with a) the lack of top 1st round picks loading up our O-line, and b) the style of run offense.

I don't know what to tell you man. Everyone was happy about the switch to zone blocking when we were back doing the 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Now everyone wants the power blocking. It really strikes me as grass-is-greener syndrome. Grant had a VERY off year with a late start and he still had 1200 yards rushing, good enough for 9th in the league. Brandon Jackson averaged 5.5 YPC. And our O-line was nowhere near settled or "developed".
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Gravedigga
16 years ago

Compared to the 1st round, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th are later, yes. Ok. I'm fine using 2nd through 4th rounders to develop an O-line. What matters more to me is DEVELOPING one. Our last good O-line was together for years, intact. That is why it was so good. They have to work as a unit and be completely comfortable together.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



We dont have guys that can get push in the run game. That's not something they're going to develop.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



So you disagree with a) the lack of top 1st round picks loading up our O-line, and b) the style of run offense.

I don't know what to tell you man. Everyone was happy about the switch to zone blocking when we were back doing the 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Now everyone wants the power blocking. It really strikes me as grass-is-greener syndrome. Grant had a VERY off year with a late start and he still had 1200 yards rushing, good enough for 9th in the league. Brandon Jackson averaged 5.5 YPC. And our O-line was nowhere near settled or "developed".

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Bottom line is this, we have the type of running game that can be successful if Aaron is slinging it around the field successfully all day long. Sort of, the pass opens up the run. That is not a good running game.

As far as zone blocking or power blocking goes. We dont have the talent to run either system. If they want to go with a specific way, stick with it and get the horses up front to run it. Dont half ass it.
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cheeseheads123
16 years ago

Compared to the 1st round, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th are later, yes. Ok. I'm fine using 2nd through 4th rounders to develop an O-line. What matters more to me is DEVELOPING one. Our last good O-line was together for years, intact. That is why it was so good. They have to work as a unit and be completely comfortable together.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



We dont have guys that can get push in the run game. That's not something they're going to develop.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



So you disagree with a) the lack of top 1st round picks loading up our O-line, and b) the style of run offense.

I don't know what to tell you man. Everyone was happy about the switch to zone blocking when we were back doing the 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Now everyone wants the power blocking. It really strikes me as grass-is-greener syndrome. Grant had a VERY off year with a late start and he still had 1200 yards rushing, good enough for 9th in the league. Brandon Jackson averaged 5.5 YPC. And our O-line was nowhere near settled or "developed".

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Bottom line is this, we have the type of running game that can be successful if Aaron is slinging it around the field successfully all day long. Sort of, the pass opens up the run. That is not a good running game.

As far as zone blocking or power blocking goes. We dont have the talent to run either system. If they want to go with a specific way, stick with it and get the horses up front to run it. Dont half ass it.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

We need the running game that can pick up and carry rodgers and company when they are having a bad day.
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dhazer
16 years ago
Back in the 90's we had a big line and did the straight up power blocking, when the year got late and the field was shitty we would run all over teams because of the line and our type of backs. We never had the breakaway speed back we had the power backs and we won with that.

BTW Zombie i think your pass happy teams and super bowls was blown out of the water because the defense was the main reason and most teams had a top running team.

Its just like golf you drive (passing) for show but putt (running) for dough. 😛
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Back in the 90's we had a big line and did the straight up power blocking, when the year got late and the field was shitty we would run all over teams because of the line and our type of backs. We never had the breakaway speed back we had the power backs and we won with that.

"dhazer" wrote:



I miss the Power O stuff. This 'agile' line gets blown all over the place. Blocking is about brute force, not finesse. At least, that's my take on it.
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