PackerTraxx
15 years ago
We thirst to read/listen. The media needs to write and sell papers/air time. Boundaries are stretched and comments come out of thin air. Just remember to take things with a "grain of salt" or even a good amout of sceptiscism.

Carry on, got any more good articles?LOL
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Greg C.
15 years ago
I don't think it's asking too much for a bunch of millionaires to answer some questions after games and practices. They are rich because the game that they play is broadcast all over the world by--guess who?--the media. I think it would be a good thing if the number of questions was more limited in some situations. But until that happens, the players will just have to answer the same questions over and over. The smart ones learn that if they just give the same answer every time, and avoid overly emotional responses, the reporters will eventually stop bugging them so much.

Meanwhile, the fans will make their own decisions about which news outlets to get their information from. As long as large numbers of fans are interested in "scoops" and leading questions, there will be a demand for that kind of reporting. It's inevitable in a capitalist system. And I bet a lot of us right here are guilty of encouraging that kind of reporting, however indirectly. I try to avoid it, but I can't say I avoid it 100%.
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porky88
15 years ago

I don't think it's asking too much for a bunch of millionaires to answer some questions after games and practices. They are rich because the game that they play is broadcast all over the world by--guess who?--the media. I think it would be a good thing if the number of questions was more limited in some situations. But until that happens, the players will just have to answer the same questions over and over. The smart ones learn that if they just give the same answer every time, and avoid overly emotional responses, the reporters will eventually stop bugging them so much.

Meanwhile, the fans will make their own decisions about which news outlets to get their information from. As long as large numbers of fans are interested in "scoops" and leading questions, there will be a demand for that kind of reporting. It's inevitable in a capitalist system. And I bet a lot of us right here are guilty of encouraging that kind of reporting, however indirectly. I try to avoid it, but I can't say I avoid it 100%.

"Greg C." wrote:



I certainly don't think asking questions is a big deal, but it does get a tad bit sickening when people beging to speculate on things. The Donald Driver story reported early I believe this month is a prime example.

Yes he wanted a contract, but it turns out that's not why he wasn't there. Yet the report made is sound that Driver is unhappy and isn't there due to the contract.

To me that is terrible reporting. It also puts Driver in a bad spot. He has to come to practice and answer questions on why he's unhappy. It was news to him.

I guess when the media stops overreacting to create a story, then perhaps fans will stop complaining and players will be more friendly.

That won't happen because like you said, fans do choose what media they like and they do read it. The Driver story generated a lot more discussion than it would've had it been reported a little more accurately.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
In an episode of Numb3rs I watched recently, a federal marshal says, "Do you how many witnesses we had before WITSEC? None. The IRS had to bust Al Capone because no one would come forth to testify."

Similarly, if it weren't for anonymous sources, we'd never have whistleblowers, and crimes like the Watergate scandal would never have come to light. Anonymous sources are indispensable for the preservation of a free press, and I'm all for their continued existence.

At the same time, I firmly believe everyone -- from the President of the United States to the bum on the street -- should bear responsibility for their words. The press in particular should be accountable for the veracity of what it publishes. If a story released on the strength of an anonymous source turns out to be demonstrably false, I believe the veil of anonymity should be lifted and both the source and the reporter should be liable under slander and libel laws. That would (in theory) force reporters to be more careful to corroborate stories and make anonymous sources less comfortable to spin pure speculation, thereby slowing the onslaught of yes-he-did-no-he-didn't stores we endure nowadays.

The problem is that prosecuting libel and slander is so expensive and time consuming that statutes like the one I propose might not have as significant an impact as I hope.
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beast
15 years ago

Anonymous sources are indispensable for the preservation of a free press, and I'm all for their continued existence.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




If a story released on the strength of an anonymous source turns out to be demonstrably false, I believe the veil of anonymity should be lifted and both the source and the reporter should be liable under slander and libel laws.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:





But those are counterproductive. I agree with what your saying but I also realize that people aren't going to come forward still if they can get in trouble.


I meant what if someone knows something bad is happening but has no proof and comes forward and tells the press secretly.

Then the bad person say where is your proof and everyone in the media thinks the report is false and make the reported tell their source only for the bad to find out and kill the good person coming forward and later 10years down the road it turns out the (now dead) source is right.

While I agree with your idea theory. I'm just thinking it's not the best for real life right now.


Also I'm sure some reporters just make up some of the Anonymous sources.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
"Demonstrably false" is an extremely stringent legal test -- one already written into slander and libel laws -- which is precisely why those charges are so difficult to prosecute. Any time someone sues the media, they simply retreat behind the excuse of "Well, you can't prove that the story was totally false or that the source knew it was false," and they usually win.

Which is why I said my idea would work in theory but I'm not sure how effective it would be in real life, unfortunately.
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beast
15 years ago

Which is why I said my idea would work in theory but I'm not sure how effective it would be in real life, unfortunately.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




That's just what I was saying. Sorry if I missed your point in saying that. I agree with your idea but I can also see how it could be unfairly used in a bad way.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Yep, it would certainly raise the possibility of retaliation. But any actions taken in retaliation should be covered by other statutes already in existence.
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