dfosterf
16 years ago

I have the same question. Exactly what pleasure do you get out of smoking cigarettes? If I even get one, the buzz I get from a cigarette is so fleeting that it's not worth the cash outlay. At least when I smoke tobacco on a hookah, the buzz (which is a lot more intense) lasts for several minutes. The buzz from cigars lasts longer too, but I don't like the dirty feeling I get from cigars or cigarettes. It sometimes lasts for hours.

But even though I don't understand what you guys get out of cigarettes, it still cheeses me off that the government wants to make this pleasure prohibitively expensive and difficult for you to obtain.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Take this picture over to the VFW or the American Legion.

It was before your time.

The crazy f#ck telling Vietnam war-stories at the bar will explain it.

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Not a Nick. He isn't fully qualified. He had a UH-1 to do the hauling for him.

Look for the guy that's drunk and smoking Marlboro lights.

Say, "Hey a guy I know said you would know what a leather Cadillac looks like...He also said that the top three things you hate are wind, weight and corrosion...look at this pic--is he nuts, or what?"

Try it. The answer will be intriguing.
The_Green_Ninja
16 years ago

I have the same question. Exactly what pleasure do you get out of smoking cigarettes?

"Everyone Basically" wrote:



I don't smoke, but I know people who do. For one, it curbs appetites. This works really good with diets. Yes, TODAY you have supplements which can do that, but back in the 70s and 80s, you didn't. Also, most of the cool kids were doing it.

You ask, "Why can't you leave it then?"

Nicotine

This stuff can be very addictive after 5 smokes. It's a bit like Coca-Cola, it's not good for you, it can burn your throat, but it's addicting. You have "Nicotine Patches", but all those do is hit nicotine in your blood stream, so it's not like you put it on and BOOM! It's cured! It's still very hard. Now, it's not as bad as heroine or those things, but it's still pretty bad.

Oh, did I also mention that cigarettes calm you down? Well, at least they do for people who are addicted to smokes due to the fact they long for their nicotine... and once they receive it, they calm.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

This stuff can be very addictive after 5 smokes.

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:



Interesting you should say this. One of the reasons why I asked my question is that I've smoked many more than 5 times and I've never developed any sort of craving for the stuff.
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The_Green_Ninja
16 years ago

This stuff can be very addictive after 5 smokes.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Interesting you should say this. One of the reasons why I asked my question is that I've smoked many more than 5 times and I've never developed any sort of craving for the stuff.

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:



It can depend on multiple things: Your stress level when taking them, why you used them, what type they were, and how quick your mind can leave the addiction. Some people it's easier then others.
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dhazer
16 years ago

Jobs ... or lives? Let's take a second to think about that ...

"SlickVision" wrote:




Both slick because if they don't have a job that effects their lives šŸ˜› Don't get me wrong i understanding having no smoking places but to have it so there is no place for a person to smoke is just stupid and actually very discriminating in my mind.

Philip Morris International employs more than 75,000 people worldwide. Thats just at one ciggy company now add in the farmers, truck drivers, and stores. Thats alot of people effected by these bans.


I ask you what is more deadly? Ciggy smoke or exhaust from a car or truck?

"dhazer" wrote:




This is America! We need to be more damn creative and innovative to create jobs. Not continue manufacturing cancer sticks to provide jobs. I know cigs are in other countries too before some jerk tries to redirect this convo to that.

Those who lose their jobs from not making cigarettes will have to find other avenues. Who knows? Maybe start their own business? Maybe some of those cig workers are extremely talented in other areas and could invent thigns or who knows?

Point is, you don't keep something around that is killing people for the pure sake of jobs. That's stupid in my opinion.

Man up, find a new way to create revenue for yourself.

"SlickVision" wrote:




Car exhaust kills people, alcohol kills people, i guess we should get rid of all of that stuff also with the way your thinking Zero. I respect you don't smoke but why punish the people that do. My grandmother has never driven a day in her life but she walks everywhere and inhales all that exhaust from cars. Its just another thing that has gone wrong with this country we have no constitutional rights anymore because hell we don't have a constitution left.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be šŸ™‚ (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Cheesey
16 years ago
Both my Grandpas smoked like chimneys and drank. They lived to 86 and 87.
My Dad and Mom smoked.........both quit........and my Dad died at 44 my Mom at 59.
Fact is, we ALL are going to die at some time. Now i'm not saying it's good to smoke. It's also not good to eat junk food, or to play sports where you can get hurt. What is going to be outlawed next for "our own good"?

Dulak.............how many people feed their kids junk food, like Twinkies for example? Thats affecting the KIDS lives, right?
As far as "second hand smoke", just don't do business at places that allow smoking if it bothers you that much.
There. End of problem.
WHY do we need LAWS to do this?
I have asthma, so believe me, i don't like smoking. So i do not go to places where it's bad enough to affect me. MY money does my talking for me.
Unless they outlaw any tobacco products, these laws are not necessary, are they?
There are enough non smoking places to go to already. And those were by the CHOICE of the owner of the business. NOT needed to make "laws" for this in my view.
I am against smoking......it is bad for you. But it's up to the individual to decide in my view. If you want to take a chance on how it MIGHT hurt you, it's your own business.
And if you own a business, it SHOULD be your choice to allow or disallow smoking.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago
I completely disagree. Smoking isn't mainly bad for the smoker, its actually WORSE for those inhaling the second hand smoke. Also, I can't recall there ever being a link between Twinkies and cancer.

Twinkies > Smoking
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The_Green_Ninja
16 years ago

I completely disagree. Smoking isn't mainly bad for the smoker, its actually WORSE for those inhaling the second hand smoke. Also, I can't recall there ever being a link between Twinkies and cancer.

Twinkies > Smoking

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



That's silly, if that were the case then I'd have so many "cancers and such" it wouldn't be funny. Second hand smoking isn't proven. You don't inhale the smoke in one big puff to your lungs. A couple of hours of smelling smoke WONT kill you.
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TheEngineer
16 years ago


I respect you don't smoke but why punish the people that do.

"dhazer" wrote:



Actually, they're punishing us who do not wish to inhale 12 different kinds of tar and carcinogenics or whatever by smoking at their own leisure wherever they want.

I'm all for this ban and the sooner cigarettes are gone, the better. And if a few employees have their toes stepped on, then, as they say, tough titties. I want my health, and I do not tolerate those who risk my life for their own guilty pleasures, and I especially don't tolerate the business ethics of tobacco companies.
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dhazer
16 years ago


I respect you don't smoke but why punish the people that do.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Actually, they're punishing us who do not wish to inhale 12 different kinds of tar and carcinogenics or whatever by smoking at their own leisure wherever they want.

I'm all for this ban and the sooner cigarettes are gone, the better. And if a few employees have their toes stepped on, then, as they say, tough titties. I want my health, and I do not tolerate those who risk my life for their own guilty pleasures, and I especially don't tolerate the business ethics of tobacco companies.

"dhazer" wrote:



well quit driving your car also šŸ˜› the toxins from car exhaust is far deadlier than cig smoke. But i guess when you say a few million employees can handle their toes stepped on means you are heartless. George Burns smoked all the time and he lived to be what 100 yrs. I guess we should stop all welding jobs to because if you ever welded you know that smoke is terrible. But i understand your just trying to protect my legacy engineer lol šŸ˜›
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be šŸ™‚ (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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