Pack93z
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15 years ago
Prayers go out to Collins and his family.. tough times no doubt.


I think it is safe to say that some owe Nick a little apology for trashing him... also I think his agent is definitely has the familiar agent slime upon him...

Sad News... 


By Greg A. Bedard of the Journal Sentinel
May. 28, 2009 9:32 a.m.

Green Bay - Willie James Collins Sr., the father of Packers safety Nick Collins, passed away on May 16 after a long battle with cancer.

It was the serious family issue Collins was referring to in comments he made to the Journal Sentinel on May 10.

Collins spent much of the 2007 season worried about this father's health and often flew back and forth to Florida to be with him. Mr. Collins' cancer was thought to be in remission last year.

The former Dixie County (Cross City) High School and Bethune-Cookman College quarterback was buried on Saturday after a celebration of Mr. Collins' life in the high school gymnasium.

Here is a portion of the obituary published in the Gainesville (Fla.) Sun:

COLLINS, WILLIE JAMES SR.

"GRAMP"

Age 56, of Cross City, Florida, a former Quarterback of Dixie County High School and Bethune-Cookman College, a former Policeman of the Cross City Police Dept and Dixie County Sheriff's Department, a former Employee of the Cross City Correctional Institution and the Dept of Agriculture, a former Coach of Pop Warner Football and the Dixie County Little League Baseball, Member of Miracle Deliverance Center Church where he served faithfully until his health began to fail, etc. died Saturday, May 16, 2009 in Cross City at the residence of his Sister, Heddie Johnson.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
They were talking on the radio how they didn't believe there was a family issue at all and it was a ploy for a contract. I was thinking to myself, man, what if there was one and it's just being kept on the down low out of respect? Then they started saying if there was a serious family issue that it would have been leaked.
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Pack93z
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15 years ago
Yes there is definitely a lesson for all types of media on this one... jumping to conclusions and not respecting a players word when spoken.

It didn't help that his agent came out and talked his slimy agent talk about how even without the issue he won't be there.. when Collins was speaking in an opposite direction..

Sooner or later the media is going to have to be held accountable for some of the things they scribe.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
15 years ago
I can't remember a single instance of a player saying they have a "serious family issue" and it being a ploy for a new contract. I don't know why anyone would even doubt it. That's some weird logic, and in retrospect, completely insensitive and shameful. On a message board it's fine I guess (90% of boards are crap anyway), but to PUBLISH and DISTRIBUTE, or BROADCAST opinions like that? Unacceptable. Those people definitely owe Nick and his family a heartfelt apology.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Yes there is definitely a lesson for all types of media on this one... jumping to conclusions and not respecting a players word when spoken.

It didn't help that his agent came out and talked his slimy agent talk about how even without the issue he won't be there.. when Collins was speaking in an opposite direction..

Sooner or later the media is going to have to be held accountable for some of the things they scribe.

"pack93z" wrote:



I was trying to go from what Collins said. He seemed adamant that it was a family issue so that's kind of how I took it. Be it a family issue as his team is his family or his actual family, it was serious to him.

I try to lean towards the player instead of the agent. I did that with my previous favorite WR, Javon Walker. That backfired in my face, but you still have to take the words from the actual person not from an interpretation from someone else. That's just my opinion though.

Sadly, I fear media will never be held accountable. This is something that I have harped on for years, literally, years. I even did a report on this subject for college. Remember the whole Brett Favre is going to announce his retirement at his golf outting? I blew that one out of the damn water and still people were thinking an announcement would be me made. The 'lose' wording was posted and still ... omg brett is gonna retire at his golf event that he has every year! Let's bring ESPN there!!

I could go on about this subject for ever. It pisses me off. Big time.
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mi_keys
15 years ago
Awful, just awful. My thoughts and prayers go out to Nick and his family.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Awful, just awful. My thoughts and prayers go out to Nick and his family.

"mi_keys" wrote:



Same here. 😞
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Rookie (from TheFan) who claimed that Collins was not showing up purely because of contract issues says he oes not feel bad for his comments after finding out his Father passed away. He says that he still believes the contract is the main reason why he's not in camp.
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15 years ago
Well fuck Rookie, then.

God... we're really accumulating quite the contingent of asshole fans.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
That sucks. Hopefully, Nick can begin to have some peace of mind and a restful heart in the coming weeks and months.

I guess I don't feel too angry with the media. Everybody knows they'll say anything to get a headline. This has been such a dicey situation with Nick. I hope he can come in and build off last year's results.
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