TheEngineer
15 years ago

Definitely one of Ted Thompson's bad moves. We should have at least held onto Ryan until someone earned the starting spot over him. It was so strange, the sudden release, that I wonder if more happened behind the scenes. They are very hush-hush about their dealings with players, which is a good thing, but leaves us fans confused.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Honest question - how much responsibility does Thompson hold on player transactions in general? I would imagine the process of replacing a player begins with scouts looking for a suitable replacement player, coaches giving input on how the current player has performed, and their expectations on possible replacement players, and finally Thompson makes the call having discussed with Bell regarding negotations and contractual values. Is that about right?
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15 years ago
Yes, I'm using Thompson as a figurehead. I name him when I'm giving credit, so it's only fair I do the same when I'm criticizing. You're right, I'm talking about the entire player scouting/personnel department.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

Definitely one of Ted Thompson's bad moves. We should have at least held onto Ryan until someone earned the starting spot over him. It was so strange, the sudden release, that I wonder if more happened behind the scenes. They are very hush-hush about their dealings with players, which is a good thing, but leaves us fans confused.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:




Wasn't Frost this great "practice punter"?


It was a bad move, said so then, say so now. Ted (and co.) made a mistake. They were fooled.

The whole deal reminded me of a movie scene. Frost was hell on wheels as a punter, right up to the point that he had to actually do it when it counted. Kind of like this great lawyer/orator, to me:



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warhawk
15 years ago
I highly doubt Ted Thompson went to the coaching staff and said " I don't like your punter and I am going to replace him." Obviously, they were concerned with the lack of consistancy and when your talking about a punter your taking the information and recommendations from they guys down on the field.
Ted Thompson made the ultimate call so he is responsible for it but on the other hand he more than likely would have been going against the coaches and their imput to just say "no, we're keeping this guy."

When they whiddle down the roster those cuts will come from what the coaches perceive are the best ones to keep and who to let go. If we let go of a player in this process and he goes to another team and does well it will be the coaches who took the list to Thompson.

Thompson's job is to listen to the coaches about what type of players they need and to bring talent onto the field. Once they get there it's up to the coaches to access the players value and decide which guys belong on the roster.

Why do you think it's McCarthy who is the one up on the podium when these cuts are made and the decisions on who goes and who stays goes thru him? It's not Ted Thompson up there because he couldn't tell you specifically why one player was kept or let go over another.
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Pack93z
15 years ago

I have to wonder, is the fact that so much media attention is being brought to bear on our punter situation a good thing (we're so stacked at other positions that we're reduced to nitpicking on special teams) or a bad thing (people have so little confidence in this team that they're obsessing even about the punter)?

I can't figure it out.

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IMO, the reason the media is making a big deal out of it, is because a solid to excellent punting game is very vital in terms of field position.

And field position is one of the most important factors in any well fought game.

Truly under appreciated as a whole in the NFL by the fans.. the importance of a good punter upon the roster.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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15 years ago

I have to wonder, is the fact that so much media attention is being brought to bear on our punter situation a good thing (we're so stacked at other positions that we're reduced to nitpicking on special teams) or a bad thing (people have so little confidence in this team that they're obsessing even about the punter)?

I can't figure it out.

"pack93z" wrote:




IMO, the reason the media is making a big deal out of it, is because a solid to excellent punting game is very vital in terms of field position.

And field position is one of the most important factors in any well fought game.

Truly under appreciated as a whole in the NFL by the fans.. the importance of a good punter upon the roster.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Agreed.
In a game where the defenses are dominating and there is no scoring, improving your field position by getting a 1st down or two more than the other team, better punts and punt coverage make a difference.
If the team begins at the 20, moves up to the 32 on their second posession and out near the 40-45 on their third posession is most likely going to score.
Many coaches are very conservative inside their 20, somewhat conservtive between the 20 and 35 and will use all of their playbook once they get out to the 40 yard line.

A good punter will help his team by pinning the other team back toward their own goal line and thus taking away a large postion of their offense.
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Mucky Tundra (6h) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
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Mucky Tundra (7h) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (7h) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (7h) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
beast (7h) : I'm going with Jax Ulbrich is not telling the whole truth... he accidentally came across it? Why would a defensive coordinator have a QB #?
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Mucky Tundra (8h) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (8h) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
Martha Careful (8h) : apparently he did not participate in practice or play on the east west shrine game nor the NFL combine. The kid was a mediocre spoiled brat
Mucky Tundra (9h) : Yeah that one that was a super wounded duck that Sanders supporters are highlighting to prove a point
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beast (9h) : It's not official until I'm dead! I have a chance still! (Not really)
Mucky Tundra (19h) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (19h) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
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Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : ✅ ...
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TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
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dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
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dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
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Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
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