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Rockmolder
Honored Member

15 years ago

Actually, if you haven't done any in depth scouting of the guy, and aren't listening to any scouts on him, then it isn't realistic at all, is it?

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

I think that it is more realistic to say that if a 4th rounder has to be a starter on our team directly, that says more about the state of our O-line than his skill.

The first interior linemen went in the 1st round, if this guy is that good, why did he fall 3 rounds? I can see that he's a steal and a good player, but if he's really that good, more people ought to have picked up on him.

Don't get me wrong, I think he can develop into a great player, but he's just to raw for me right now. He has the same arm size and athleticism as Wells, from what I've seen. Most people don't even project Wells in our current starting line-up. He's strong, and I think that with some coaching and training he can be an good guard, mainly in the running game, but I just don't think he can start this year.

Then again, looking at it in my pessimistic and horribly wrong way, Barbre, Spitz and Moll where great projects in their respective drafts aswell. They're ok, but just look at last years line. No outside pass protection and no inside push for the running game at all.

MassPackersFan
Member

15 years ago

#22

Well, in regards to Wells, I've seen more than one fan say that Spitz needs to be center to get a heavier body in the middle against the big DT's in the NFCN, while Wells and Spitz are listed as nearly the exact same weight on packers.com. :lol:

I don't think those O-linemen will necessarily start this year either. I'm just excited about Lang as a prospect. Colledge I was meh on. Spitz and Sitton I'm moderately excited about too. I want scrappy linemen who fight out there in the trenches, and everything I've seen about Lang suggests he's that kind of guy. Plus you can't argue with his size - 316 coming out of college should make everyone who was upset about our 300lb OL smile.

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#23

Here's a nice little youtube video on him.

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I like...

EDIT

I just noticed that this video was posted early in this thread. Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread till' just now.

djcubez
Senior Member

15 years ago

#24

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

Just to chime in on your debate a bit. I don't think the round a player is picked in matters as much as people say. It's basically first impressions of a player and who they think is going to be better based on those impressions. I'd also like to point out that there were 4 tackles in this draft that could have been taken in the Top 10. That alone says that a tackle in the 4th round this year is probably better than a tackle in the 4th round last year.

porky88
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#25

Actually, if you haven't done any in depth scouting of the guy, and aren't listening to any scouts on him, then it isn't realistic at all, is it?

"Rockmolder" wrote:

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

I think Lang's school hurt his draft status more than anything.

If Tom Brady was that good he wouldn't of fell either, but he did. In Brady's case it wasn't because of his school, but rather he just didn't appear to project to the NFL. Obviously he does.

Moll was a starter as a 5th. Spitz as a 3rd.

It's not out of the question that Lang will start. I think the coaches would probably hope he emerges as the starter. The offensive line is an easy position to transition from college to pro.

I have two projections

LT: Chad Clifton
LG: Daryn Colledge
C: Jason Spitz
RG: Josh Sitton
RT: T.J. Lang

My other projection would be

LT: Chad Clifton
LG: Jason Spitz
C: Scott Wells
RG: Josh Sitton
RT: Daryn Colledge

As far as the state of the line. That all depends on the improvements guys like Sitton, Spitz, and Colledge make.

http://www.row12.com/

Dulak
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#26

I have two projections

LT: Chad Clifton
LG: Daryn Colledge
C: Jason Spitz
RG: Josh Sitton
RT: T.J. Lang

My other projection would be

LT: Chad Clifton
LG: Jason Spitz
C: Scott Wells
RG: Josh Sitton
RT: Daryn Colledge

As far as the state of the line. That all depends on the improvements guys like Sitton, Spitz, and Colledge make.

"porky88" wrote:

You forgot Meredith ... IMO he was the steal of our draft (a steal at the 5th round) - he should of went in the 2nd or early 3rd.

Dont get me wrong I'm glad we have Lang also ... nothing like 2 solid big OLmen to add to our lineup. I feel better for arod already and our running game.

IronMan
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#27

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2009/07/07/1/

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#28

Good news.

So who is left to sign?

Raji, Matthews, and who else? I can't think right now.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#29

Quinn Johnson. Odd that our 4th round pick signed before our 5th round pick.

Rockmolder
Honored Member

15 years ago

#30

Quinn Johnson. Odd that our 4th round pick signed before our 5th round pick.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Especially since he's a fullback. Knowing TT, he wants to make it a contract with a lot of incentives in it. Maybe they're still trying to figure that out? I mean, what do you want to base those on? Time on the field? Pancakes?

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