RaiderPride
15 years ago


RP, I have NO problem with the amount of money they make. That's not the issue here. But he is under contract. He is property of the Packers. If he wants to explore his free agent options after this season, then more power to him. If the Vikings offer him $1 more and he wants to go there, more power to him.

But right now he is just acting like a spoiled little punk. There's a new scheme to learn. And he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer anyway, so he needs to get his ass the GB with his TEAM.

"IronMan" wrote:



I agree with you 100%

He is under contract.

But a contract means shit in the NFL because other players have been allowed by owners to GET OUT OF CONTRACTS.

Heretofore the precedent has been set, just like it has been set in every business. There are rules and there is opportunity.

I hate it as much as you.... But those are the play ground rules, set by owners and players on the NFL Playground.

DO NOT BLAME HIM OR HIS AGENT.

We can not call him "Scum of the earth." for playing by the rules. Rules and Guidelines set forth by previous history and negotiation success in this business called Professional Football. He and his agent are just doing what is best for the the long term for a NFL Player.

They are following the rules of the money game set forth by owners. Not Players.

I may be wrong on this topic, and I often am wrong. However that is my opinion.

Take the best and leave the rest.

R.P.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
dd80forever
15 years ago
When Javon Walker did this he was the Anti-Christ
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
I guess I'm somewhere in between IM and RP on this one - I absolutely agree with RP on the money angle - the NFL as an industry makes staggering coin, and a LOT of these guys will get one payday, maybe two, and then nothing. Then they'll be out in the real world and likely ill-equipped to deal with it. I'm not saying we should all be crying in our beers for the poor widdle football players, but I have no problem with them getting paid handsomely for their efforts. And looking for a new contract with under 2 years left on your current one, especially after a pro-bowl season, is S.O.P., whether we fans like it or not.

BUT. He's not doing himself any good by staying away, even if the only issue is his financial well-being - if he doesn't see the field or plays like crap because he lost out on the opportunity to learn the new system, he's never going to see the huge payday he's looking for. It's also shitty team-wise, because they obviously want/need him there participating and learning along with the rest of the D.

I'm not going to really worry unless/until he actually holds out of mandatory activities, but this is a poor move that's only going to backfire on him, IMO.
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dd80forever
15 years ago
The Pro-Bowl nod just gave him the ammunition to do this. I predict Nick Collins will not be a Packer in a few years
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

The Pro-Bowl nod just gave him the ammunition to do this. I predict Nick Collins will not be a Packer in a few years

"dd80forever" wrote:




It'll be interesting to see if my (crappy) prediction of Jenkins @ the 9 sport plays out tomorrow - if it does, that certainly softens the blow if you're right.
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dd80forever
15 years ago
Man, that would get Nick's panties in a bunch wouldn't it?
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

Man, that would get Nick's panties in a bunch wouldn't it?

"dd80forever" wrote:




Don't know, but I'm thinking it might get his ass into camp faster.
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
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beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
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