RaiderPride
15 years ago


RP, I have NO problem with the amount of money they make. That's not the issue here. But he is under contract. He is property of the Packers. If he wants to explore his free agent options after this season, then more power to him. If the Vikings offer him $1 more and he wants to go there, more power to him.

But right now he is just acting like a spoiled little punk. There's a new scheme to learn. And he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer anyway, so he needs to get his ass the GB with his TEAM.

"IronMan" wrote:



I agree with you 100%

He is under contract.

But a contract means shit in the NFL because other players have been allowed by owners to GET OUT OF CONTRACTS.

Heretofore the precedent has been set, just like it has been set in every business. There are rules and there is opportunity.

I hate it as much as you.... But those are the play ground rules, set by owners and players on the NFL Playground.

DO NOT BLAME HIM OR HIS AGENT.

We can not call him "Scum of the earth." for playing by the rules. Rules and Guidelines set forth by previous history and negotiation success in this business called Professional Football. He and his agent are just doing what is best for the the long term for a NFL Player.

They are following the rules of the money game set forth by owners. Not Players.

I may be wrong on this topic, and I often am wrong. However that is my opinion.

Take the best and leave the rest.

R.P.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
dd80forever
15 years ago
When Javon Walker did this he was the Anti-Christ
blank
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
I guess I'm somewhere in between IM and RP on this one - I absolutely agree with RP on the money angle - the NFL as an industry makes staggering coin, and a LOT of these guys will get one payday, maybe two, and then nothing. Then they'll be out in the real world and likely ill-equipped to deal with it. I'm not saying we should all be crying in our beers for the poor widdle football players, but I have no problem with them getting paid handsomely for their efforts. And looking for a new contract with under 2 years left on your current one, especially after a pro-bowl season, is S.O.P., whether we fans like it or not.

BUT. He's not doing himself any good by staying away, even if the only issue is his financial well-being - if he doesn't see the field or plays like crap because he lost out on the opportunity to learn the new system, he's never going to see the huge payday he's looking for. It's also shitty team-wise, because they obviously want/need him there participating and learning along with the rest of the D.

I'm not going to really worry unless/until he actually holds out of mandatory activities, but this is a poor move that's only going to backfire on him, IMO.
blank
dd80forever
15 years ago
The Pro-Bowl nod just gave him the ammunition to do this. I predict Nick Collins will not be a Packer in a few years
blank
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

The Pro-Bowl nod just gave him the ammunition to do this. I predict Nick Collins will not be a Packer in a few years

"dd80forever" wrote:




It'll be interesting to see if my (crappy) prediction of Jenkins @ the 9 sport plays out tomorrow - if it does, that certainly softens the blow if you're right.
blank
dd80forever
15 years ago
Man, that would get Nick's panties in a bunch wouldn't it?
blank
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

Man, that would get Nick's panties in a bunch wouldn't it?

"dd80forever" wrote:




Don't know, but I'm thinking it might get his ass into camp faster.
blank
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (12h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16h) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (17h) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (17h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (17h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (17h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (17h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (18h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (18h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (18h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (18h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (18h) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (18h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (18h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (18h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (20h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (20h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (20h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.
Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
wpr (9-Apr) : yay
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland
Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'
Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
6h / Random Babble / bboystyle

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

13-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

11-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Rockmolder

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.