Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Man I wish we had a GM that would OVERPAY for talent every single off season so then we can hear about people bitching about how we overpaid for this player and that player, etc. GOLLY GOSH that would be SWELL.
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Bigbyfan
16 years ago
Just because a player isn't signed, that doesn't necessarily mean it is because Ted Thompson didn't want to "overpay." I just think it is weird that everyone wants a player, but when we don't get him, those same people think it was a good thing he wasn't signed. This statement isn't targeting any single poster because for the majority of the time I am the same way.
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
I wish we would've signed Canty, but I know that it's a roll of the dice either way. So i don't get too worked up when we don't. I'm not surprised he chose NYG over packers. He was born in NYC and, let's call a spade a spade, most players would rather live in NYC than Green Bay. I don't blame anyone for that, it's just a matter of fact.

edit: I would think that for a player that Dallas decided they would not try to re-sign, it would be sweet to play for the giants and embarrass the cowboys twice a year. The cowboys wouldn't pay him, so he's gonna make them pay. heh. I amuse myself.
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bigfog
16 years ago

Let's face reality here.

Free Agency for the Green Bay Packers is not as simple as for some other teams. There are very few reasons to come to Green Bay outside of a large lucrative contract. Most people either do not originate from the Wisconsin area, dislike all that cold and the outdoor stadium, or have no interest in the "nightlife" in Green Bay when they can enjoy NY. One of the reasons that people did come here was to play with Favre, but that reason's now replaced with playing in a 3-4 defense. But then, this will be our first season in a 3-4 and likely that many players would be wary of whether we can be successful or not in the scheme. Why would they take that chance with us?

Hence, the only way to lure a free agent to Green Bay is to overpay relative to the potential amount that we could have paid for that player, if we were in a bigger market.

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I think you've hit the nail on the head. The very thing we as fans love about the team (big time football in a relatively small town), is the same quality that I think turns off a lot of players. Hence, Green Bay has to work to overcome that presumption of "hick town with nothing to do."

One way to do that is to overpay, which is a piss poor strategy. The other way is to find the right kind of people that don't mind that they would be living and playing in cold Wisconsin.

All the same though, it pisses me off that Green Bay seemingly gets the shaft in the eyes of free agents who won't even come to visit. Not saying that Canty was in that camp, but I'm sure there are other players who think along these lines.

Fine, don't come to Green Bay. It makes it all the more sweeter when the Pack wins a Superbowl.
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Stevetarded
16 years ago
My wish for FA is for people to stop acting like they know what the coaches of this team want for their positions more than Ted Thompson does. Like we NEED to get soandso or the team will never be any good. The dude isn't trying to sabotage is own job.
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longtimefan
16 years ago

Hey Zero as far as your comment in the Reggie White thread, you forget when Moss was a FA Brett offered to pay for his contract and Ted Thompson didn't even acknowledged it and said Brett was a liar. No FA wants to come to GB because of tightwad Ted. This will probably be the only thread going now till the draft seeing Ted Thompson proved he won't sign a FA.

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I thought the only reason in the past he didnt sign anyone was cuz he was pushing Brett out
DGB454
16 years ago
Rabble rabble rabble.
PackOne
16 years ago
It sucks not to get Canty... but not because Ted did anything wrong. We are thin, Cole got too much so that's not an argument either. But, we are running out of proven options.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

It sucks not to get Canty... but not because Ted did anything wrong. We are thin, Cole got too much so that's not an argument either. But, we are running out of proven options.

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I would have been okay with adding a few million to the Canty deal, not the Cole deal though.
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16 years ago
Man... I was out of the house for a few hours, and I come back to see Canty signed with the Giants. Then I read on NFP that Green Bay made a big push and offered more money than NY, but Canty wanted to stay on the East Coast. What a bummer....
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