Zero2Cool
8 months ago
93 EDGE rushers have rushed the passer 60 or more times this season.

*This is where GBs ranks*

Rashan Gary: 6 (57/93 EDGE)

Preston Smith: 6 (57/93 EDGE)

Kinglsey Enagbare: 5 (66/93 EDGE)

Lukas Van Ness: 4 (72/93 EDGE)



UserPostedImage
8 months ago
perhaps I am stupid, what is the number front of The parenthetical mean? The number of pressures? if so, this stinks.
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Zero2Cool
8 months ago

perhaps I am stupid, what is the number front of The parenthetical mean? The number of pressures? if so, this stinks.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


It's their ranking in the EDGE grouping.
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beast
8 months ago

93 EDGE rushers have rushed the passer 60 or more times this season.

*This is where GBs ranks*

Rashan Gary: 6 (57/93 EDGE)

Preston Smith: 6 (57/93 EDGE)

Kinglsey Enagbare: 5 (66/93 EDGE)

Lukas Van Ness: 4 (72/93 EDGE)


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I'm not saying the Packers have been good at pass pushing, BUT if I'm understanding this stat correctly, his statistics logic is pure crap.

So 93 Edge Rushers have 60 pass rushes or more, that's an average of 2.91 Edge Rushers per team. For this argument, let's round this up to 3.

Meanwhile the Packers have 21 pressures with 4 Edge Rushers, and average of 5.25 sacks per edge rusher.

So for other teams to do better, their 3 Edge Rushers had to get 5.5 pressures or better. But when you multiple that, 5.3 x 3 = 16.5 pressures.

So if I'm understanding this stat correctly, he's accidentally suggesting teams with 16.5 to 21 pressures are better than the Packers with 21 pressures just because they used only 3 Edge Rushers, making their individual pressures numbers higher, while the Packers are using 4 Edge Rushers making their individual pressures numbers lower.

Which is why I'm thinking his stat logic BS.


Why the hell are we judging a team based on breaking their team apart, when they play on the field together?

Why not just judge a teams pressures based on the teams stats? Aren't the Edge players helping the DTs get pressures? Packers have two DTs in the top 21 DTs in pressures.

Again, I'm not saying the Packers pass rush is good, in fact, PFF rates the Packers pass rush as 25th of 32. But if I'm understanding that stat, then other teams players should have higher pressures as they're not rotating as many guys in.

I'm assuming this guy is getting his stats from PFF. In which they also have a stat called PRP.

PRP: A formula that combines pressures (sacks, hits and hurries) relative to how many times they rush the passer

And the Packers 4 Edge Rushers all end up in the 61 to 72 range (so pretty darn bad). In which Enagbare is the best and Gary is the worst.

But looking at that same PRP stat, Wyatt is the 13th best pass rushing DT in the NFL and the Packers have 3 DTs in the top 50 DT pass rushers.

Could some of that be the scheme, helping the DTs get better pass rushing matchups, while hurting the DE pass rushing matchups? You know, especially with the Packers coaches openly saying to the media that they are asking the DEs to focus on the run a bit more.


So yes, DEs are absolutely struggling (and DTs are being fairly successful) to get pressure, but the stats used to original show it, was even worse as a team with less pressures could look better, and a team with more pressures could look worse.

This defenses needs another stud (or two) a long the DL. Clark is still putting up a ton of snaps, and for a DT, he's absolutely a cardio machine, but his quality just isn't what it used to be.

UserPostedImage
8 months ago
"Ask not what thine eyes can answer"

The DE pass rush stinks, unless we are playing cupcakes.
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Zero2Cool
8 months ago
More excuses. You're paid top dollar, produce.

I've seen multiple clips where the T had Gary bracketed in a loose headlock lol kind of funny how it wasn't talked about during TV or you know ... flagged.

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beast
8 months ago

More excuses. You're paid top dollar, produce.

I've seen multiple clips where the T had Gary bracketed in a loose headlock lol kind of funny how it wasn't talked about during TV or you know ... flagged.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well if they're sliding it to Gary, that means other guys should be getting more one on ones and they aren't getting it done enough in one on ones.
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Zero2Cool
8 months ago
We just need the Tackle's to fall on their ass. That's the ticket!

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Mucky Tundra
8 months ago

We just need the Tackle's to fall on their ass. That's the ticket!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Elite stuff by Gary. Can't teach that.
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Zero2Cool
6 months ago
Packers are 6th in sacks. Vikings likely to jump up and push Packers to 7th. Either way, I was shocked they were top 10 in sacks. I figured bottom 10 the way it's talked about.
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