Zero2Cool
2 years ago

You can't say all the playoff losses were on rodgers. Remember that game vs Tampa? How about kicking a field goal instead of going for it? I do agree that he didn't look good last season.

Originally Posted by: umair_010 

How about the defense getting you three turnovers in the 2nd half and you only pushing the offense into 7 points and couldn't even get a first down the other two drives while netting just -5 yards between the two? 

You are right though. Aaron Rodgers did not lose the game, however, when you're the NFL MVP, you should be the reason why your team won. And he wasn't.  And that is a problem.
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wpr
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2 years ago
Yep. Every year I post 17-0 (or 16-0 or 19-0in the old days.) It eans nothing this time of the year. It means nothing suring training camp. It means nothing during preseason. 

Here's a news flash--- Write this down you wont want to forget it.


READY???


IT MEANS NOTHING DURING THE SEAON EITHER.

What I say or think or what any fan says or thinks means nothing. Nothing at all. It is only killing a few minutes or hours out of our day. It's nothing. The Packers don't play better or worse because of the brilliance of fan logic. It doesn't bring about world peace of end global warming (Or cooling. I forget which one are we worried about this week?)

I'm not interested in being pigeon-holed into being considered an optimistic or pessimistic fan. I just want to hang out and chat when I can find the time.

There are a lot of things that are slightly more important to me than how we think the Packer are going to perform this year. Today (And every day this week) I take my wife back for another radiation treatment. On Friday we go for yet another chemo treatment. 

But by all means, fan how you want to fan. I'm fine with that. 
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

What I say or think or what any fan says or thinks means nothing. Nothing at all.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


This is fake news. When I eat Subway and put my left sock on first, the Packers always win. It's just fact.
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2 years ago
Are we heading into the dark ages, I don't think so.   

Nevertheless, we could be in for growing pains:
  • We have one of the youngest teams in the NFL
  • We have on of the youngest coaches in the NFL, who has never NOT had a HOF at QB
  • We have a relatively young and inexperienced Offensive Coordinator
  • We have a Defensive Coordinator who many of us feel is not the guy (with Jim Leonard taking an off year)
  • We may be starting 2 rookie tight ends and a bunch of second year wide receivers, generally not a recipe for success
  • We do not have a proven Right Tackle at this point
  • There is a chance that by the end of next year, we won't have a proven Left Tackle either
  • We will have either an incredibly old or and incredibly unproven kicker....which is not good in close games

In another thread I said we would be 7-10, but our record next year almost does not matter. 

I think we will need to assess whether the upcoming season provides legitimate positive resolution to the issues enumerated above  and whether the case can be made for a bright future, or whether we a few years away.
 
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beast
2 years ago

I'm not a troll 😑. Yes I had a 5 year gap but that is because life happens. For the record I really do hope love can carry the team which is why I mentioned the possibility in my original post.

Originally Posted by: umair_010 

Life f***ing sucks, and not in the good way!

As for your original question, we're heading into a rebuild. And I think we'll see the scheme on both sides of the ball tweaked. 

On offense, I think LaFleaur will go more towards the traditional Wide Zone like he and Kyle Shanahan used to run instead of the Wide Zone/MM Iso out hybrid of stuff that LaFleaur and Rodgers both liked.

On defense, I think the back 7 will be staying the same, but they just drafted 3 Edge/DT hybrids... and this after drafting very athletic DT Wyatt the year before. So I'm wondering if the Packers are changing scheme wise up front and attacking and penetrating more while two gapping run clogging less.

You can run defend either way, but the attacking is higher risk, higher reward (when it works) but less protection (when it doesn't work) including the second level will have to deal with OL more often.

Too many questions about this year for me to see past it and into the future. But I think the goal is develop the offense, and create chemistry in the passing game this year. I'm worried about the OL though.

OL and DBs are my current predicted needs for next year. Also maybe a RB depending on what happens with Dillon (contract year) and Jones (had to take a pay cut this year, but didn't change the pay for next year yet).
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dhazer
2 years ago

Just to add...I saw the thread about predicting our record. Some of you guys are delusional. Lol. 

We saw how things looked without adams. Now without Rodgers it can be a whole new level of sucking. 

Originally Posted by: umair_010 



I ask you why you say people are delusional? I predict they win the NFC North. We will have our defense healthy and the rookies now have a year under their belt. When we ran the ball last year we were a dominant team, we lost when Rodgers decided to change plays as in the redzone 3 times against the Lions.  We will run the offense the way it was susppose to be run, it won't be flashy but we will grind out yards and take the TOP which in turn helps the defense. I ask what part of the special teams sucked last year? We had the best return man in the league.  Do you even know how this offense is suppose to be run? I say watch the Tennessee Titans of 2020 and 2021 and you will see our offense. Or I say watch the Ravens and argue me with their record the past few years? They run the ball and sprinkle in some passing game and play defense.  I honestly don't think the Lions helped themselves out much in the draft. The Vikes were fluke plays away from being under 500. And of course the Bears will be the Bears. So I guess I'll respect your opinion but they are far from facts or even an intelligent guess because you don't give no reasoning. I always say the Lions will be strong and they always struggle. I don't see them having the high scoring offense this year as last year. Also their non common oppents are Ravens, Cowboys and Seahawks all playoff teams from last year. The Vikes get 49ers, Bengals and Eagles. While the Packers get Steelers Giants and Rams.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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dhazer
2 years ago

I don't care what he did 2 years ago. I am looking at his current results. Hopefully he finds a way to be good again because he has a lot of talent to work with. 

You can't say all the playoff losses were on rodgers. Remember that game vs Tampa? How about kicking a field goal instead of going for it? I do agree that he didn't look good last season.

Originally Posted by: umair_010 


What about the Tampa game if Rodgers runs for it instead of passing we win lol, or hell even if he picked up a few 1st downs lol. Look at the 4th quarter  we score a TD to get to 28-17  defense gets int and we get another td 28-23 Defense INT Rodgers goes 1-4 next 2 drives with 2 sacks which pretty much ends the game. Brady was trying everything he could to give the game to Rodgers and he choked it away.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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dhazer
2 years ago

You want to call anybody who is predicting a Winning season "delusional"?

I predict 12-4 or now 12-5 or 13-4 every year.
Then there are the ones who predict 17-0 every year. (Almost nailed it in 2011😄)

Hell dhazer, for the 1st time since 2011, is actually predicting a winning season.
What's up with that?😄


This is supposed to be a fun little thing that we all can look back on at the end of the season. 
Don't take things so seriously. 
 

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



That right there I think puts this post into the Packershome all time posts area lol
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Cheesey
2 years ago
Really, all any of us has is hope and opinions. Not one of us knows how the coming season will pan out.
THere is nothing wrong with posting your OPINION of what it will be. And only time will tell who will be right in their assessment.
No one should be blasted for writing how they feel about the new season, their positive or negative thoughts.
I try to be positive about this year. It's my hope .
But I won't be shocked if it doesn't turn out that way.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

What about the Tampa game if Rodgers runs for it instead of passing we win lol, or hell even if he picked up a few 1st downs lol. Look at the 4th quarter  we score a TD to get to 28-17  defense gets int and we get another td 28-23 Defense INT Rodgers goes 1-4 next 2 drives with 2 sacks which pretty much ends the game. Brady was trying everything he could to give the game to Rodgers and he choked it away.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



I mean, it's cool, but she just sounds like a Vikings concern troll. To each their own I suppose.
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