Zero2Cool
2 years ago

I got a pretty interesting  idea. Some reporter asks Jaire Alexander, Rasul Douglas and maybe Amos if THEY know Aaron Rodgers' signals. 🤔 

 

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



My assumption is Rodgers has a few dozen signals he uses. Then each week 4-6 are used for that specific week. However, based on what Rodgers said yesterday, it sounds like Jordan Love picks them out and does it. 

I can see how this would make WR's feel uptight and play in fear, but I also think it says more about the WR's the Packers bring in than it does negative about Rodgers. I mean, wouldn't you want your QB to use signals to take advantage of situations?
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dfosterf
2 years ago
Virtually all the media have characterized what the Packers do here with respect to QB signals as another example of Rodgers being an arrogant prick or an approximation of one. He obviously didn't like the article, probably and mostly because of how the article itself was used as another opportunity to bash him. I read it as more along the lines of that is how we roll in Green Bay regarding qb signals, with a resulting bit more difficulty for rookie WRs.
After absorbing the article, my armchair GM /Head coach instincts tell me that it would be a net positive to fear less about the secrecy aspect of those signals than making sure my wide receivers are absolutely well-versed in all of them. When I first read this article, probably because it is about "signals", it reminded me of how I was truly taught semaphore in the military. Coincidentally, semaphore is 30 signals. We were taught in 5 signal "chunks," absolutely immersed in those 5, before moving on to the next 5. The result was an ability to know it without even thinking about it. I submit that the value of teaching these rookie wide receivers to have that level of knowledge and comfort outweighs the need for super secret security of those signals, especially when you also factor in how much easier it is to make minor changes to them once they are fully comprehended. 
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Virtually all the media have characterized what the Packers do here with respect to QB signals as another example of Rodgers being an arrogant prick or an approximation of one. He obviously didn't like the article, probably and mostly because of how the article itself was used as another opportunity to bash him. I read it as more along the lines of that is how we roll in Green Bay regarding qb signals, with a resulting bit more difficulty for rookie WRs. 

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



If you're saying Rodgers is upset at the reaction of the article, more so than the article itself, I completely agree. The article stated things with quotes from cited sources. This wasn't some unnamed source hit piece.  Players that are/were active on the roster provided quotes. Clearly, it's true information. I think it's just the public reaction that put the angst in Rodgers perspective. 
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nerdmann
2 years ago

So what do you suggest they do? Stop doing signals at the line? Completely lose the capability of changing routes at the line? Sounds dumb as hell to me. 

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



1 How about teach them the signals? If you're afraid of players being cut and leaking the signals, you can always use an indicator, or you could change them once in awhile.

2 Not death glare people. Maybe Aaron also claims he doesn't have a death glare. 

3 Limit yourself to signals that the players know. For example, it has long been claimed that Aaron will audible to plays no one has heard of, from back in the McCarthy days. 

4 Get Aaron off coke. Peruvian marching powder makes a person passive aggressive and douchey. If Aaron stops sniffing it to excess, he we will have less of a douchey propensity to act like the smartest person in the room, by making up signals on the spot or that he hasn't used for a decade, just to make it seem like he's so smart, no one else knows what's up. Who knows, he might even have less of a propensity to hold the franchise hostage and monopolize the salary cap. Maybe he'll even let Jordan play.

5 Stick with the running game. Less of a need to blow peoples minds calling fake signals that don't actually exist if we're not optioning out of the run.

6 Execute the offense. If Aaron hated McCarthy so much and his offense was so "low IQ," then why do we have a whole "2nd playbook" which is not actually "in" the official playbook? Maybe teach those plays so guys know what they are, or let Matt call plays, since his offense is better anyways. 
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nerdmann
2 years ago
7 Trade Aaron for whatever we can get. Tell him to fuck off with his douchey, passive aggressive bullshit. 

8 Instead of making this a fear based proposition, why not reward guys for getting them right when they are tested?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
dfosterf
2 years ago
I think the article was a net plus for the Packers going forward. The Christian Watson goal line mis-communication after this article was out is pure poetry in the sense that it put a bow on the gift that there is a problem here that needs addressing by the Packers, who are, absent some pretty very obviously deserved criticism, quite slow to act. I have said this so many times, in so many ways, while Aaron Rodgers is a lightning rod for criticism by the national media as fans of 31 other teams just love to pile on so many biased opinions of him. Bottom line, still true to this day, Aaron Rodgers has pretty much always been the least of our problems, and when I read here or mostly elsewhere otherwise, I sincerely wonder what the hell are those people looking at. Those reactions to that article piss him off, I think that's obvious and actually good. If you don't think Aaron took the sentiments expressed by the quotes under strong advisement, imo, you lack the ability to intellectually wade through some pretty egregiously  biased hatred of the man, motivated in large part by just how many clicks authors can generate. 
nerdmann
2 years ago
Florio's pie hole.




“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
go.pack.go.
2 years ago


2 Not death glare people. Maybe Aaron also claims he doesn't have a death glare. 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Did you pay attention to what happened after Watson missed that signal at the end of the game? Rodgers and him had smiles about it when Watson came back to the huddle. They even high fived each other. 
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Did you pay attention to what happened after Watson missed that signal at the end of the game? Rodgers and him had smiles about it when Watson came back to the huddle. They even high fived each other. 

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



FAKE NEWS!!! AARON RODGERS IS HORRIBLE TEAMMATE AND KICKS PUPPIES WITH DOWN SYNDROME!!! 
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nerdmann
2 years ago
In fairness, they did make an example of Kylin Hill and they did finally shitcan Amari Rodgers. 

Now Sammy Watkins too.

The main problem is Aaron having leverage over the franchise. Hopefully all of these problems will be properly addressed forthwith.
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Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
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