Zero2Cool
2 years ago
The Romeo Doubs TD drop vs Patriots. Matt LaFleur said his replay guy said it's a drop, don't challenge. LaFleur went and challenged anyway and after the game said it was "emotional" challenge. He also said he'll learn from it. Bullsnot!! He's said this same damn thing multiple times every season now. He doesn't learn!! It could have cost us the game.

And someone needs to slap Aaron Rodgers. Look, I don't care about first half time outs that much and I think we fans go off the rails way too easily about it. And about the play being snapped under five seconds. We're not the only team that does it. That being said, second half, we can't be dumbasses with them timeouts. If you don't like a look, SO WHAT, make it work! You only get three per half!!
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Cheesey
2 years ago
I agree. Aaron Rodgers has been in the league long enough to make a call and get the play off. Wasting timeouts has become too often for him.
It shouldn't take the entire play clock to get the ball snapped.

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beast
2 years ago
I honestly don't understand why 2nd half timeouts are being deemed more valuable than 1st half timeouts...

They're equal value, and the half's are equal value, you can score late right before the half, just like you can at the end of the game... protect those timeouts
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

I honestly don't understand why 2nd half timeouts are being deemed more valuable than 1st half timeouts...

They're equal value, and the half's are equal value, you can score late right before the half, just like you can at the end of the game... protect those timeouts

Originally Posted by: beast 



Based on my logic, it's quite simple. You can't lose/win the game in the first half. You can in the second half. Therefore, they are not equal value. Second half has the edge in value for the mere fact that you can win/lose the game in the second half.
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beast
2 years ago

Based on my logic, it's quite simple. You can't lose/win the game in the first half. You can in the second half. Therefore, they are not equal value. Second half has the edge in value for the mere fact that you can win/lose the game in the second half.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I would say teams have equal chances to score points in the first half as they do in the second half ...

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Cheesey
2 years ago
Even though both half's are the same, the second half SEEMS to be more important as it's the last chance to win the game.
At the end of the first half, even if you are way behind, you still have the hope of a second half comeback.
Thus, second half timeouts might be your last shot at winning, where timeouts might be the difference between a win and a loss.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

I would say teams have equal chances to score points in the first half as they do in the second half ...

Originally Posted by: beast 



I would say, no shit sherlock.
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hardrocker950
2 years ago

Even though both half's are the same, the second half SEEMS to be more important as it's the last chance to win the game.
At the end of the first half, even if you are way behind, you still have the hope of a second half comeback.
Thus, second half timeouts might be your last shot at winning, where timeouts might be the difference between a win and a loss.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I agree - but also hate seeing wasted opportunities. If you have your timeouts and the ball before the half - it gives a chance to gain points. Sometimes even a 3 before half time can be a huge difference maker in close games.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Even though both half's are the same, the second half SEEMS to be more important as it's the last chance to win the game.
At the end of the first half, even if you are way behind, you still have the hope of a second half comeback.
Thus, second half timeouts might be your last shot at winning, where timeouts might be the difference between a win and a loss.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



That is pretty much where my logic falls as I can't recall a team winning or losing in the first half. Typically (unless a shortened game) you have that final two quarters to overcome a point deficiency created in the first half. That's just my logic, ain't saying it's the only one. It's just why I value the final three timeouts more than the first three.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

I agree - but also hate seeing wasted opportunities. If you have your timeouts and the ball before the half - it gives a chance to gain points. Sometimes even a 3 before half time can be a huge difference maker in close games.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



This is also very true. I've heard coaches and players talking about momentum going into half time. When Giants got that hail mary TD against us, Packers said it was demoralizing. And same thing when Packers got their TD at halftime, Giants said it deflated them. So, that going into half time momentum thing can be huge. If a team marches down the field and can't stop the clock. That's a huge lift for the defense.
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
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