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3 years ago

I'm here to talk sports, not to make friends. I have enough friends.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

I don't care about friends in this context either, but I do care about consistency.

No point in discussing issues in depth with someone whom isn't consistent or has different goal post for different people.

You asked for my current top 8, so here you go:

WR1- Lazard
WR2- Watkins
WR3- Watson
WR4- Cobb
WR5- Doubs
WR6- Rodgers
WR7- Toure
WR8- Winfree

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

Thanks, yeah, I was mainly wondering whom you had at #6, that in theory Toure could jump one guy and make the roster as a top 6 guy without being a STer, despite WR Taylor consistently making it as the #6 guy as a STer.

So since you are so high on You're, do you think Rodgers is at risk of missing the 53 man roster?


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Thanks, yeah, I was mainly wondering whom you had at #6, that in theory Toure could jump one guy and make the roster as a top 6 guy without being a STer, despite WR Taylor consistently making it as the #6 guy as a STer.

So since you are so high on You're, do you think Rodgers is at risk of missing the 53 man roster?

Originally Posted by: beast 



I'm "high on" at least 7 WRs making the 53. I think Toure will be one of those 7. He will have to show he can play though. Cobb may be the one on more shakey ground than some think. Very valuable from a veteran leadership standpoint, and very close to Aaron, but if he looks a step slower than everyone out there in camp, I could see Gute cutting him loose. Aaron isn't going to freak out over Gute making decisions that are in the best interest of the team as a whole.

I have Cobb at WR4, the top slot guy right now, but Watkins can play in the slot also if need be. And it's very likely that Amari shows a step up in his play this camp. Cobb is expendable for sure. I'd hate to see him go, but I would see it as much more possible than Amari going.



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3 years ago

Cobb may be the one on more shakey ground than some think. Very valuable from a veteran leadership standpoint, and very close to Aaron, but if he looks a step slower than everyone out there in camp, I could see Gute cutting him loose.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

He also had to completely learn a brand new offensive, that most the others have already had multiple years of playing in.

Once Cobb got hot mid-season, he looked alright with his connection with Rodgers.

Aaron isn't going to freak out over Gute making decisions that are in the best interest of the team as a whole.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

Um, I think some would claim he did with the release of Kumerow. Whom Rodgers has stated as the 2nd best receiver on the team at the time. Where Cobb is his best friend and Rodgers probably considers him among the best on the team.
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Um, I think some would claim he did with the release of Kumerow. Whom Rodgers has stated as the 2nd best receiver on the team at the time. Where Cobb is his best friend and Rodgers probably considers him among the best on the team.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Gute and Aaron's relationship is a TON different now than it was at the beginning of last season. Aaron gets it now. Why Gute does what he does, and that it always has to be in the best interest of team and not singular players.

I am not saying Cobb is gone, I still say my Top 7 stays, but I was saying it's more possible Cobb goes than Amari, who you asked if I thought is a possible cut. Big no on that.
beast
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3 years ago

Gute and Aaron's relationship is a TON different now than it was at the beginning of last season. Aaron gets it now. Why Gute does what he does, and that it always has to be in the best interest of team and not singular players.

I am not saying Cobb is gone, I still say my Top 7 stays, but I was saying it's more possible Cobb goes than Amari, who you asked if I thought is a possible cut. Big no on that.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 


Yeah I understand what you're saying on the Cobb/Amari Rodgers front.

On the Aaron Rodgers/Gute front, I think the situation is different than what you're saying...

I think Rodgers has always understood that the GM has to do what's best for the team... and understands that most years they have to release the #7 WR


I think their issues was that they had very different ways of ranking guys... Ie, Gute had Kumerow as the #7 WR (buh bye) and Rodgers had him as the #2 WR (probably route running, and adjusting to what Rodgers wanted).

While Gute and Rodgers seem to have a much more open line of communication now, I still think their different ways of ranking guys could be an issue.

Though they might discuss said issue before cutting the roster down now, and resolve the issue (maybe, but maybe not as well).
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3 years ago

Yeah I understand what you're saying on the Cobb/Amari Rodgers front.

On the Aaron Rodgers/Gute front, I think the situation is different than what you're saying...

I think Rodgers has always understood that the GM has to do what's best for the team... and understands that most years they have to release the #7 WR


I think their issues was that they had very different ways of ranking guys... Ie, Gute had Kumerow as the #7 WR (buh bye) and Rodgers had him as the #2 WR (probably route running, and adjusting to what Rodgers wanted).

While Gute and Rodgers seem to have a much more open line of communication now, I still think their different ways of ranking guys could be an issue.

Though they might discuss said issue before cutting the roster down now, and resolve the issue (maybe, but maybe not as well).

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6 WRs is not a every year thing on the final 53. You are acting like there is some standard of six. I think you are stuck on 6 for this year because that is what he kept last year. It fluctuates. Some years more, some years less. In 2020 when they let Kumerow go, Gute only kept 5 WRs. Tae, Lazard, MVS, EQ, and Malik Taylor.

This year he will be keeping 7(probable)...maybe even 8.😳😏
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3 years ago

6 WRs is not a every year thing on the final 53. You are acting like there is some standard of six. I think you are stuck on 6 for this year because that is what he kept last year. It fluctuates. Some years more, some years less. In 2020 when they let Kumerow go, Gute only kept 5 WRs. Tae, Lazard, MVS, EQ, and Malik Taylor.

This year he will be keeping 7(probable)...maybe even 8.😳😏

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

That totally wasn't the point of what I stated...

But Packers have consistently been keeping 6 WRs in recent years (with at least one being heavily used mostly as a STer) and.it used to be 5 WRs...

2021: 6 WRs
2020: 5 WRs
2019: 6 WRs
2018: 8* WRs, but Kumerow and Davis where injuries in preseason and go to the IR before ever playing a game, so 6 WRs.
2017: 5** WRs 5 WR plus We Allison was suspended for 1 week, so 6 WRs
2016: 7 WRs
2015: 5 WRs
2014: 5 WRs
2013: 5 WRs
2012: 6 WRs
2011: 5 WRs
2010: 5 WRs

So the only year they kept more than 6 was 2016. Before that was mostly 5 WRs and after that has been mostly 6 WRs.

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3 years ago

That totally wasn't the point of what I stated...

But Packers have consistently been keeping 6 WRs in recent years (with at least one being heavily used mostly as a STer) and.it used to be 5 WRs...

2021: 6 WRs
2020: 5 WRs
2019: 6 WRs
2018: 8* WRs, but Kumerow and Davis where injuries in preseason and go to the IR before ever playing a game, so 6 WRs.
2017: 5** WRs 5 WR plus We Allison was suspended for 1 week, so 6 WRs
2016: 7 WRs
2015: 5 WRs
2014: 5 WRs
2013: 5 WRs
2012: 6 WRs
2011: 5 WRs
2010: 5 WRs

So the only year they kept more than 6 was 2016. Before that was mostly 5 WRs and after that has been mostly 6 WRs.

Originally Posted by: beast 


You just made my point for me. It indeed does fluctuate often. There was never any reason to think Gute will keep 6 this season like last. Look, I like you, but you will keep spinning things and never admit being even remotely mistaken about ANYTHING. It's funny. I actually enjoy it.😌

I very well may be wrong about Gute keeping 7 at least this year, but I will be first to admit I was wrong. I don't think I will be though. Stay tuned...

You better pray Samori Toure really messes up in camp. Cuz if he and Cobbie make it, then it's 7 guaranteed! And you will have to admit you were wrong. It will be the first time I have ever seen you admit it.

Don't take me the wrong way. I enjoy messin' with you.😌
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You just made my point for me. It indeed does fluctuate often.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

Except it doesn't, but whatever. Ignore the facts.

There was never any reason to think Gute will keep 6 this season like last.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

That's just a lie.

Look, I like you, but you will keeping spinning things and never admit being even remotely mistaken about ANYTHING.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

I'm pretty sure you're just projecting yourself into others here...

I'm wrong about a lot, and have even had the balls to make muliple Mock drafts which had multiple wrong things (happens every year) and the balls to post a mock 53 man mock roster, which I've already changed as I think the original was wrong...

And you will have to admit you were wrong.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 

I've already admitted I'm wrong about something.

As for this issue, you'd first have to prove what I've said it couldn't be 7 WRs. If you can find that, I'll admit I'm wrong, as I don't believe I've said that... just pointing out it's most likely 6 healthy WRs because most recent years that's what it is.
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3 years ago

You just made my point for me. It indeed does fluctuate often. There was never any reason to think Gute will keep 6 this season like last. Look, I like you, but you will keep spinning things and never admit being even remotely mistaken about ANYTHING. It's funny. I actually enjoy it.😌

I very well may be wrong about Gute keeping 7 at least this year, but I will be first to admit I was wrong. I don't think I will be though. Stay tuned...

You better pray Samori Toure really messes up in camp. Cuz if he and Cobbie make it, then it's 7 guaranteed! And you will have to admit you were wrong. It will be the first time I have ever seen you admit it.

Don't take me the wrong way. I enjoy messin' with you.😌

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If you think of Lazard as more of a TE, keeping 6 makes more sense.
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