beast
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3 years ago

A CBS prognosticator has Burks going at 13. I'm not one who delves very deep into the mocks because 99% of them are wrong. Especially outside of the top 5 picks. I admire the effort you put in to this. Not my thing.

We have some developmental guys on the line I want to add another stud and solidify things. When we get to big games they seem to disappear. How about Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State?

Originally Posted by: wpr 

I mainly like it for general direction of the team will go. I just enjoy them being hopefully for the future.

OT Cross might be the best pure pass blocker in this draft, so if he gets outside the top 10 it would slightly surprise me. I don't think he's falling into the mid 20s.

But yes, if OT Cross, the Center from Iowa of the OT/OG from NC State falls to the Packers, you absolutely have to consider them.

But when everyone is healthy it's
Bakhtiari
Jenkins
Myers
Runyan
Turner

I feel like it'd be hard to break into that lineup even as a top pick, though Jenkins is injured, and Jenkins and Turner have contracts up soon, so it is possible.

Why, WHY do people continue to have Packers drafting a WR in round one. Do they not pay attention? Do not they understand? And then all these mock drafts having Packers with WR in round one get folks thinking they failed by not doing so. Projecting the Packers to take a WR in round one speaks bogus expectations into existence. The Packers will NOT take a WR in round one unless it's a top five talent that dropped to them due to injury.

The Packers will most likely end up taking someone on the line (OL/DL) in round one. BOOK IT BABY!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Usually it's believe people are lazy and they think they got the QB, but not need another WR to go with Adams, and if you look at last year, they're right.

Though I generally agree with you, Packers are probably not drafting a traditional WR in the 1st round. But Burks is not the traditional WR, he's more of a WR/TE hybrid that creates mismatches weather you treat him as a WR or TE and LaFleur could seriously use a hybrid in this system.

But I absolutely do pay attention, and if you pay attention to Gute, he has (so far), always followed a pattern of positional value in the first round.

Traditionally the most valuable tier 1 positions in the NFL are QB, CB, Edge Rusher and OT. Notice how all Gute first selections so far have all been at those positions?

More modern NFL has added a tier 1B which adds Safety and TE as a tier right below that, and all of Gute's 1st round picks have come from these. And my selection of Burks is really as a hybrid WR/TE more than straight WR. Also in the wide zone system, they have often drafted a LG in the top 2 rounds as well, like the Packers did with Jenkins, so that might be up there too.


Another pattern Gute has, he has selected great athletes in the first, more physical guys in the 2nd and more scheme guys in the third.
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wpr
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3 years ago
Cross is #23 on the Walter board. Prob not there at 28. Perhaps they will package a deal and move up if they want him bad enough.

But when everyone is healthy it's
Bakhtiari
Jenkins
Myers
Runyan
Turner

Beast wrote:


When healthy is the key. Whoever they would pick up in the draft will not be the starter in 2022. Turner is gone after the season is over. Great way to learn. Taking a year to study Bak. And as you pointed out When is Jenkins coming back. Some of the studs in the draft will be better than Nijman, Hansen or Newman. But I am not walking away from Newman. Pretty weak this year but that's what happens to rookies. (Myers too.) In reality GB is not going to invest a Day 1 pick on the OL. Not unless they don't think Bak or Jenkins will come back all the way.
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Mucky Tundra (15h) : How much of that is guaranteed?
Zero2Cool (19h) : $45m over three years. Yikes.
dfosterf (19h) : Seahawks sign Cooper Kupp
Zero2Cool (14-Mar) : Colts sign CB Corey Ballentine.
dfosterf (14-Mar) : At least give it some spins in your mocks. Not Martha, she's disqualified, lol
dfosterf (14-Mar) : You have to like Tyliek Williams DL from Ohio State to agree with me on this
dfosterf (14-Mar) : quality dl in the 2nd and quality edge in the 3rd
dfosterf (14-Mar) : Taking Mathew Golden WR in the 1st is consistently working out for me in getting q
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Martha Careful (13-Mar) : ditto, I wish nothing but the best for AJ Diilan and Josh Myers. and yes dfosterf, you are correct
Mucky Tundra (12-Mar) : Love AJ but it was time to move on. Also, gonna be interesting to see how he does behind Phillys oline
Mucky Tundra (12-Mar) : Josh Myers to the Jets one a one year, 3.5 million dollar deal
dfosterf (12-Mar) : Wish nothing but the best for AJ Dillon!
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wpr (12-Mar) : The Packers did not tender restricted free agent John FitzPatrick. The tight end played in nine games after signing with Green Bay
wpr (12-Mar) : The Eagles are signing former Packers running back AJ Dillon, a league source confirms.
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Might be waiting for the right place, or right cash, or both
dhazer (12-Mar) : I can't believe Chubb is still a free agent why wouldnt someone take a chance on him he is a stud with stuff to prove
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : I wanna find it too
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : if they find it, i wanna know how !!
dfosterf (12-Mar) : According to the OTC cap figures, Miami has one minute to find 10.3 million in cap space lol
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Martha Careful (12-Mar) : RIP Junior Bridgeman. An excellent businessman and NBA er
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : It's better to have $17m to use on players who will be on the field. That's why trade/release is talked
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : post june is $7m cap hit with $17m saving
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : oops meant $10m cap hit
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : And pre june is $10m savings
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Can't make him play.
dhazer (12-Mar) : I am curious why the big need to release Jaire, we have 29 million cap space we arent spending and would only gain $6 million/ make him play
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Joey Bosa signed with Bills?
dfosterf (12-Mar) : What they are offering is a left over case of Leinies from the Chippewa Falls plant
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : 27, 59, 91, 129 gets you Jaire and our 3rd
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : they give us those five, or even first four, they can have Jaire.
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : 27, 59, 91, 129 and 136 are only ones worth having of theirs.
dfosterf (12-Mar) : What they don't have is cap space, at least presently at 5.6 mil
dfosterf (12-Mar) : Poor bastards only have 11
Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Ravens ain't got crap for picks.
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dfosterf (12-Mar) : Current cap space 29.6 million.
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