3 years ago
Just asking...contractually, what happens if he sits? Do the Packers retain his rights, and if so for how long? Does he face the same situation in a year?
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Just asking...contractually, what happens if he sits? Do the Packers retain his rights, and if so for how long? Does he face the same situation in a year?

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



You can think of something like Leveon Bell. Sit out the whole season and then Packers can franchise him again. Adams can sit out until like Week X (not sure when) and get the season counted as one accrued and pocket some nice cash for about half the season. I think Packers can tag him again, but that's it. I think only to franchise tags back to back.
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porky88
3 years ago
Why are people caught off guard with this? Most players don't want to play on the franchise tag. Look at what happened to Javon Walker. Now, granted he wasn't on the franchise tag, but he blew out his ACL and was never the same player. If Adams tears his ACL next season, then odds are strong he'll lose tens of millions of dollars. Yes, he's slated to get 20 million this season. However, he would garner $50 million guaranteed in bonuses on a long-term deal. This is a business decision for him as much as it is for the Packers.

Additionally, if the Packers do intend to move forward with Aaron Rodgers for the next 2 to 4 seasons, then locking up Adams on a third contract makes sense. Something along the lines of a 4 year extension would likely lower his cap hit for this year and reward him for being the greatest Packers WR since arguably Sterling Sharpe. He has shown little signs of slowing down and been an immensely healthy WR. I suspect he'll remain a the top of his game for at least 2 to 3 more years.

I believe Gutey mentioned in a press conference that they see the franchise tag as a bridge to get from Point A to Point B.

Point B is clearly a long-term contract extension agreement. I would be surprised if one doesn't happen between now and July.
Cheesey
3 years ago

Thankfully, he hasn't spoken like that at all. There have been some athletes who are like "I'm not holding out to hurt the team, you have to understand I have a family to support!" and I'm thinking, yeah, and $14 million isn't enough?

Anyhow, Davante Adams only issue is he wants to be the highest paid WR for his ego. He feels that's what he deserve because he feels there is no WR better than them and he wants to be paid accordingly. That's all it is. It's not about not having a enough money, it's not about the money, it's about the recognition that comes WITH the money. If that makes sense. I probably worded it crappy.

Basically, if the highest paid WR was getting $5 million a year, he'd be good with being paid $5.5 million per year. He just wants to be #1 paid WR.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Geez....but how much is enough? Ego? 20 million should be enough to "prove" his greatness. It's not like it's peanuts. More in one year then most likely everyone on this site would make in a lifetime of hard work.
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3 years ago

Why are people caught off guard with this? Most players don't want to play on the franchise tag. Look at what happened to Javon Walker. Now, granted he wasn't on the franchise tag, but he blew out his ACL and was never the same player. If Adams tears his ACL next season, then odds are strong he'll lose tens of millions of dollars. Yes, he's slated to get 20 million this season. However, he would garner $50 million guaranteed in bonuses on a long-term deal. This is a business decision for him as much as it is for the Packers.

Additionally, if the Packers do intend to move forward with Aaron Rodgers for the next 2 to 4 seasons, then locking up Adams on a third contract makes sense. Something along the lines of a 4 year extension would likely lower his cap hit for this year and reward him for being the greatest Packers WR since arguably Sterling Sharpe. He has shown little signs of slowing down and been an immensely healthy WR. I suspect he'll remain a the top of his game for at least 2 to 3 more years.

I believe Gutey mentioned in a press conference that they see the franchise tag as a bridge to get from Point A to Point B.

Point B is clearly a long-term contract extension agreement. I would be surprised if one doesn't happen between now and July.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Overall I agree with Porky. This is his last chance to cash it. He has done the work and has earned the right to be the highest paid WR. It will only be for one season. Maybe not the whole year. Someone will come along and pass him up.

I have no doubt the Packers will work it out with him after they create enough cap space.

The issue is what constitutes the highest paid player. Tae and his agent feel they need to look at what DeAndre Hopkins' AAV at $27.250 million as the benchmark. The Packers counter that that was a two season extension to an existing contract so the money was spread out and watered down. They feel Amari Cooper's cap hit of $22 million is a better indicator of a player's salary. Look at the whole thing and not just a slice of it.

Those were the 2021 numbers when negotiations began. Now for 2022, Hopkins' cap hit has increased to $25 + million. In a way by dragging his feet Adams has won part of the battle. The Packers can talk about $23 or $24 million being the benchmark. They have to push it to $26. And as long as you are there, why not go all the way to $27.5 or $28? I don't blame Adams for trying to get all he can. Once he is done, he is done. It's over.

Yes he can sit out for the year. They will do it all again next year but the numbers will be higher. Tae will be a year older and he will be more likely not to live up to the full potential of the contract. Both sides lose.

Last season I thought $25 million was fair. Every time a WR signs for more than that, it will push it further down the list.

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beast
3 years ago
WR are seriously getting overpaid, and I doubt nessarily mean the top WRs, but some #2 or #3 WRs are getting paid better than some #1s...

Which is also why we're seeing a number of WRs released from their contracts before they finish them..

So we might as well give Adams his $28 million or whatever it is, as a long term deal, as soon WRs will be getting over $30 million... it's coming soon.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Geez....but how much is enough? Ego? 20 million should be enough to "prove" his greatness. It's not like it's peanuts. More in one year then most likely everyone on this site would make in a lifetime of hard work.
Greed is destroying all major sports
Now........GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
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Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Hey, I think it's kind of bogus we even are told their salaries. I think that creates so many headaches and issues. We have zero business knowing their earnings. All it does is create division and angst.

And you already know how much is enough. I just laid it all out for you. He wants to be the highest paid WR, whatever that takes, that is how much is enough. 😀

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

WR are seriously getting overpaid, and I doubt nessarily mean the top WRs, but some #2 or #3 WRs are getting paid better than some #1s...

Which is also why we're seeing a number of WRs released from their contracts before they finish them..

So we might as well give Adams his $28 million or whatever it is, as a long term deal, as soon WRs will be getting over $30 million... it's coming soon.

Originally Posted by: beast 



No, absolutely not. No WR is worth $28 million a year. I like Adams, but he's 29 years old and has had some concussions. You don't drop that kind of money on a WR if you want to win a Super Bowl.
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3 years ago

Hey, I think it's kind of bogus we even are told their salaries. I think that creates so many headaches and issues. We have zero business knowing their earnings. All it does is create division and angst.

And you already know how much is enough. I just laid it all out for you. He wants to be the highest paid WR, whatever that takes, that is how much is enough. 😀

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It has always been this way. People questioned Babe Ruth for making more money that the President. His reply was that he had a better year than the President.

In January 1958 Stan Musial wanted to be the highest paid player in the National League. He got a contract to be the first to receive $100,000. This was after he won the batting title in 1957. All contracts were for 1 year. A few years later after struggling he had to accept a pay cut.

There is so much money in sports these days it's hard for the average person to comprehend. (Can anyone say they really know what a trillion dollars is? It's just a number that we toss around. As an example it would take 1 billion $1000 bills to make a trillion. It really has no meaning.)

The same for players salaries. $20 million a year is obscene. $30 million even more so. There is that much money in the system. Only a fraction of it comes from the fans in the form of ticket prices. Jersey or other memorabilia. Over the years I have been a strong advocate for ownership in all sports. The system is broke. Even if Adams agreed to "only" $10 million a year it would not change the runaway prices.


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3 years ago
So Adams says he won't play on the franchise tag? Name one WR/TE that did better after leaving Rodgers...Jennings? Jones? Cobb?
Nelson had an ok year with the Raiders, but nothing spectacular. Without #12 tossin him the ball, he will look very pedestrian.
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