Zero2Cool
3 years ago
I've seen this WR name bounced around for Packers quite a bit. The Packers haven't drafted anyone over 22 under Brian G and this kid is 20. He'll probably miss the entire 2022 season. What do you know about him or other potential guys we might pick up in round one?

WR Jameson Williams college stats. Just one good season.
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beast
3 years ago
Gute also has never drafted a guy you know will miss the majority of his rookie season in the first 5 rounds.

I think the Packers need someone to play a physical slot role, weather it be a physical TE with enough size to be a mini TE or an athletic TE that can be a true threat in the receiving game.

Also we still don't know what they're going to do with the Smith contracts, but the draft is about the future is right now the Packers 2023 only has Clark and Gary that have proven anything up front... they NEED better depth there, especially if Berry is going to continue to play the conservative version and not blitz more to help the pass rushers even when the Packers had 4 of their top 5 OLBers out with injuries.

This draft is loaded with better Edge Rushers in the top of the draft, need to grab one of them or a DT if you like which ones fall.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Gute also has never drafted a guy you know will miss the majority of his rookie season in the first 5 rounds.

Originally Posted by: beast 



While this is probably true, I'm not sure there are a plethora of opportunities for what most feel is a top five talent falling to the end of round one. Maybe I'm mistaken?
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beast
3 years ago

While this is probably true, I'm not sure there are a plethora of opportunities for what most feel is a top five talent falling to the end of round one. Maybe I'm mistaken?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I was mainly just picking on you, for always throwing a statement like that out on my mocks :P

Though last time, you said Gute never selected someone over 22 in the first round, which I didn't think much of.

Looks like you said he hasn't selected anyone over 22 in any round, which of correct, then that is something interesting.


As for top talent being injured and knowing going to miss time as a rookie... the last couple that pop up into my mind are..

2016: LB Jaylon Smith
2016: LB Myles Jack
2019: DT Jeffery Simmons
2019: WR DK Metcalf

In 2016 (Gute wasn't GM) and Packers only selected DT Clark above them.

In 2019 only OLB Gary was selected before Simmons (though Simmons has been GREAT so far) and they selected OLB Gary, S Savage and OL Jenkins before WR Metcalf... who missed a season or two due to a neck injury in college and some teams had him red flags, though I'm not sure if he's missed any NFL time or not, but his name came.to.mind, as if he was 100% healthy and no medical red flags, some said he'd be a top 10 selection, instead, the last pick of the second round.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

I was mainly just picking on you, for always throwing a statement like that out on my mocks :P

Though last time, you said Gute never selected someone over 22 in the first round, which I didn't think much of.

Looks like you said he hasn't selected anyone over 22 in any round, which of correct, then that is something interesting.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Oh, no no. I haven't done that deep of a dive. Only round one and it might be just coincidence. He just seems to like very athletic guys who are 22 or younger. Albeit, not the hugest of huge sample sizes though.
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beast
3 years ago

Oh, no no. I haven't done that deep of a dive. Only round one and it might be just coincidence. He just seems to like very athletic guys who are 22 or younger. Albeit, not the hugest of huge sample sizes though.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Other patterns I've seen noted...

In the 1st round Gute seems to like high potential as a value position, as QB, CB, Edge rusher and OT are deemed the most valuable positions with S and TE being on the second tier of that. And all of Gute's selections have been in that first tier so far, and Savage whom was the second selection but still in the first round, is still in that second tier.


Then in round two, the Packers since hiring Thompson, have always drafted either a needed position or a position where an important player was going into a contract year (ie Dillon when Jones was going into a contract year), and then Gute has selected a good big of beef in the 2nd round with Jenkins, Myers and Dillon.


In round three, it has seemed to be a lot of tweeners, like Burks, is he a LB or S? Nope sucks at both... TE Sternberger a TE or WR? Nope, sucks at both.. Dugara is a TE/FB tweener and WR Rodgers a WR/RB tweener.

Though part of this is scheme as well, as this offensive scheme is about versatility out of the same look and you need versatile players and whomever runs Packers.com depth chart, kept making there be two TE starters and two WR starters, instead of the standard 3 WR and 1 TE, which has me believe LaFleur prefers more of a two TE system like Kyle Shanahan than a 3 WR system like Sean McVay.

But versatile players can be huge! But so far, Gute's record there is pretty bad, as Burks is basically just a STer and Stermburger was a miss, and a very talented WR got selected one pick after him, whom surely would of been the Packers #2 WR if the Packers had selected him.
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3 years ago
How about this guy? Georgia defensive tackle Jordan Davis.. He's a fast beast. But he'll be gone in the first round
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I thought I would pull this thread back to the top instead of starting a new one. There has been comments on other threads as to who the Packers should take or players we would like to see them select.

In the first round here is the list of WR that merit consideration.
Garrett Wilson. This is about the only WR Green Bay should consider trading up and take if things work out and he "falls" to 14 or better still wait until 17 after the Eagles picks at 15 &16 and before their pick at 19.
George Pickens
Drake London
Chris Olave
Treylan Burks
Johan Dotson
Second round prospects
Skyy Moore
Christian Watson

Non receiver prospects:
Dave Ojabo Edge
Zion Johnson OL
Jordan Davis DL
Nakobe Dean LB
Devonte Wyatt DL

Second round
Daxton Hill S
Kenyon Green OL

I've seen or heard mock drafts expect the Packers to take two WR in the first round. I don't know they would ever do that. I wouldn't mind it if they are able to pick up an average FA (Landry, Fuller or Watkins being my preferred choices) and then wait until the 2nd round.

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beast
3 years ago

How about this guy? Georgia defensive tackle Jordan Davis.. He's a fast beast. But he'll be gone in the first round

Originally Posted by: packerfanwayoutwest 



I got mixed reactions, as he seems to be a one trick pony... run stuffer, but he's absolutely great at that one trick and in the system we use now, we're light up front and heavy in coverage, so an amazing run stuffer in theory could help the pass rusher worry less about stopping the run and more about pass rushing.

Still, ideally, you wish he showed better pass rush abilities, and whom knows, maybe with NFL coaching more will come? But certainly not for certain.
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Pugger
3 years ago
Last Wednesday Gute was present at Ohio State's pro day to check out Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave.
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