Zero2Cool
3 years ago
I've seen this WR name bounced around for Packers quite a bit. The Packers haven't drafted anyone over 22 under Brian G and this kid is 20. He'll probably miss the entire 2022 season. What do you know about him or other potential guys we might pick up in round one?

WR Jameson Williams college stats. Just one good season.
 image.png You have insufficient rights to see the content.

UserPostedImage
beast
3 years ago
Gute also has never drafted a guy you know will miss the majority of his rookie season in the first 5 rounds.

I think the Packers need someone to play a physical slot role, weather it be a physical TE with enough size to be a mini TE or an athletic TE that can be a true threat in the receiving game.

Also we still don't know what they're going to do with the Smith contracts, but the draft is about the future is right now the Packers 2023 only has Clark and Gary that have proven anything up front... they NEED better depth there, especially if Berry is going to continue to play the conservative version and not blitz more to help the pass rushers even when the Packers had 4 of their top 5 OLBers out with injuries.

This draft is loaded with better Edge Rushers in the top of the draft, need to grab one of them or a DT if you like which ones fall.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Gute also has never drafted a guy you know will miss the majority of his rookie season in the first 5 rounds.

Originally Posted by: beast 



While this is probably true, I'm not sure there are a plethora of opportunities for what most feel is a top five talent falling to the end of round one. Maybe I'm mistaken?
UserPostedImage
beast
3 years ago

While this is probably true, I'm not sure there are a plethora of opportunities for what most feel is a top five talent falling to the end of round one. Maybe I'm mistaken?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I was mainly just picking on you, for always throwing a statement like that out on my mocks :P

Though last time, you said Gute never selected someone over 22 in the first round, which I didn't think much of.

Looks like you said he hasn't selected anyone over 22 in any round, which of correct, then that is something interesting.


As for top talent being injured and knowing going to miss time as a rookie... the last couple that pop up into my mind are..

2016: LB Jaylon Smith
2016: LB Myles Jack
2019: DT Jeffery Simmons
2019: WR DK Metcalf

In 2016 (Gute wasn't GM) and Packers only selected DT Clark above them.

In 2019 only OLB Gary was selected before Simmons (though Simmons has been GREAT so far) and they selected OLB Gary, S Savage and OL Jenkins before WR Metcalf... who missed a season or two due to a neck injury in college and some teams had him red flags, though I'm not sure if he's missed any NFL time or not, but his name came.to.mind, as if he was 100% healthy and no medical red flags, some said he'd be a top 10 selection, instead, the last pick of the second round.

UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
3 years ago

I was mainly just picking on you, for always throwing a statement like that out on my mocks :P

Though last time, you said Gute never selected someone over 22 in the first round, which I didn't think much of.

Looks like you said he hasn't selected anyone over 22 in any round, which of correct, then that is something interesting.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Oh, no no. I haven't done that deep of a dive. Only round one and it might be just coincidence. He just seems to like very athletic guys who are 22 or younger. Albeit, not the hugest of huge sample sizes though.
UserPostedImage
beast
3 years ago

Oh, no no. I haven't done that deep of a dive. Only round one and it might be just coincidence. He just seems to like very athletic guys who are 22 or younger. Albeit, not the hugest of huge sample sizes though.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Other patterns I've seen noted...

In the 1st round Gute seems to like high potential as a value position, as QB, CB, Edge rusher and OT are deemed the most valuable positions with S and TE being on the second tier of that. And all of Gute's selections have been in that first tier so far, and Savage whom was the second selection but still in the first round, is still in that second tier.


Then in round two, the Packers since hiring Thompson, have always drafted either a needed position or a position where an important player was going into a contract year (ie Dillon when Jones was going into a contract year), and then Gute has selected a good big of beef in the 2nd round with Jenkins, Myers and Dillon.


In round three, it has seemed to be a lot of tweeners, like Burks, is he a LB or S? Nope sucks at both... TE Sternberger a TE or WR? Nope, sucks at both.. Dugara is a TE/FB tweener and WR Rodgers a WR/RB tweener.

Though part of this is scheme as well, as this offensive scheme is about versatility out of the same look and you need versatile players and whomever runs Packers.com depth chart, kept making there be two TE starters and two WR starters, instead of the standard 3 WR and 1 TE, which has me believe LaFleur prefers more of a two TE system like Kyle Shanahan than a 3 WR system like Sean McVay.

But versatile players can be huge! But so far, Gute's record there is pretty bad, as Burks is basically just a STer and Stermburger was a miss, and a very talented WR got selected one pick after him, whom surely would of been the Packers #2 WR if the Packers had selected him.
UserPostedImage
3 years ago
How about this guy? Georgia defensive tackle Jordan Davis.. He's a fast beast. But he'll be gone in the first round
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
3 years ago
I thought I would pull this thread back to the top instead of starting a new one. There has been comments on other threads as to who the Packers should take or players we would like to see them select.

In the first round here is the list of WR that merit consideration.
Garrett Wilson. This is about the only WR Green Bay should consider trading up and take if things work out and he "falls" to 14 or better still wait until 17 after the Eagles picks at 15 &16 and before their pick at 19.
George Pickens
Drake London
Chris Olave
Treylan Burks
Johan Dotson
Second round prospects
Skyy Moore
Christian Watson

Non receiver prospects:
Dave Ojabo Edge
Zion Johnson OL
Jordan Davis DL
Nakobe Dean LB
Devonte Wyatt DL

Second round
Daxton Hill S
Kenyon Green OL

I've seen or heard mock drafts expect the Packers to take two WR in the first round. I don't know they would ever do that. I wouldn't mind it if they are able to pick up an average FA (Landry, Fuller or Watkins being my preferred choices) and then wait until the 2nd round.

UserPostedImage
beast
3 years ago

How about this guy? Georgia defensive tackle Jordan Davis.. He's a fast beast. But he'll be gone in the first round

Originally Posted by: packerfanwayoutwest 



I got mixed reactions, as he seems to be a one trick pony... run stuffer, but he's absolutely great at that one trick and in the system we use now, we're light up front and heavy in coverage, so an amazing run stuffer in theory could help the pass rusher worry less about stopping the run and more about pass rushing.

Still, ideally, you wish he showed better pass rush abilities, and whom knows, maybe with NFL coaching more will come? But certainly not for certain.
UserPostedImage
Pugger
3 years ago
Last Wednesday Gute was present at Ohio State's pro day to check out Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave.
Fan Shout
wpr (30-May) : It's all good.
beast (30-May) : Yeah, and I enjoyed your comments and just attempted to add to it. Sorry if I did it incorrectly.
wpr (30-May) : Beast I never said Henderson was the salt of the earth. Nor even that he was correct. Just quoting the guy.
Zero2Cool (29-May) : What did you do??
Zero2Cool (29-May) : Whoa
beast (29-May) : OMG the website is now all white, even some white on white text
beast (29-May) : Henderson, who admits to taking cocaine during the Super Bowl against the Steelers, might dislike Bradshaw as he lost two Superbowls to him
wpr (28-May) : Hollywood Henderson said Bradshaw “is so dumb, he couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the C and an A.”
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Cooper stock=BUY BUY BUY
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Also notes he’s playing with more confidence.
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : @AndyHermanNFL MLF says there was a time last year where Cooper was at 220 pounds. Now he’s at 240 and still flying around.
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : And don't even get me started on Frank Caliendos "impersonations"
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I got tired of them being circle jerks with them overlaughing at each others jokes.
Zero2Cool (28-May) : It used to be must watch TV for me. now it's "meh" maybe to hear injury update
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I haven't watched the pregame shows in years and I don't feel like I've missed a thing
Zero2Cool (28-May) : Love says knee affected him all season, groin injury didn't help matters.
Zero2Cool (28-May) : I used to enjoy him on FOX Pregame. Now it's like a frat party of former Patriots.
Zero2Cool (28-May) : LaFleur on Watson: “Christian is doing outstanding. I would say he’s ahead of schedule.”
Martha Careful (28-May) : Bradshaw is a dumb ass cracker. I am so tired of his "aw shucks" diatribe. He should shrivel up and go away.
buckeyepackfan (28-May) : He wad all butt hurt because Aaron duped the media saying he was immunized.
buckeyepackfan (28-May) : Bradshaw needs to retire. He's been ripping on Rodgers ever since the covid crap. He was all hury
Zero2Cool (28-May) : Terry Bradshaw doesn't want Rodgers in Pittsburgh lol wow
Zero2Cool (27-May) : one day contract, which he also feels is pointless, but if Packers came to him, he would
packerfanoutwest (27-May) : Aaron Rodgers talks possibility of retiring with Packers, just another rumor
dfosterf (27-May) : Go watch 2001
Zero2Cool (26-May) : 1984
dfosterf (26-May) : That movie sent a chill through many. 1968.
dfosterf (26-May) : "Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
buckeyepackfan (25-May) : Haven't we all seen thus movie? It doesn't end well!! Lol
Zero2Cool (25-May) : lol Anthropic’s new AI model turns to blackmail when engineers try to take it offline
dfosterf (25-May) : Claude Opus 4
dfosterf (25-May) : AI system resorts to blackmail when its developers threaten to take it offline
beast (22-May) : Colts Owner Jim Irsay has passed away
Zero2Cool (21-May) : Well, emailing should work now. After not working for almost a year. Oops.
Zero2Cool (21-May) : Brotherly Shove did not get enough votes.
Zero2Cool (20-May) : lol our email hasn't worked in months. 7 pages of unverified users
Zero2Cool (20-May) : MySpace Screaming Lord Byron ... Brett Favre.
Zero2Cool (19-May) : Packers have signed first-round pick Matthew Golden, leaving second-round tackle Anthony Belton as their only unsigned draft pick
beast (19-May) : Supposedly he has to take his image, and name off of it... but otherwise could keep selling wine if he wanted to.
Zero2Cool (19-May) : he giving up his win business?
beast (19-May) : Speaking of Woodson, sounds like he'll be a minority owner (0.1%) of the Browns
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Zero, regarding Woodson, that'd why I find the timing with Williams peculiar
dfosterf (15-May) : Ryan Hall y'all does a great job of tracking thesr
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Fear not!! I planned to do 33mi bike ride tomorrow morning, so ... yeah
Zero2Cool (15-May) : We got some dark clouds and nasty winds right bout now.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Madison they had hail 4pm.
dfosterf (15-May) : Sure looks like these tornadoes are headed towards Green Bay
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Woodson of Charles fame was reluctant and then loved it. that didn't really come out until post career
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : IE "We bought into the Bears and they let us down, we have no choice to seek alternatives"
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Or that Williams and his family are preparing an exit ramp if they don't like how things are going in a few years
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

27-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

27-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.