Zero2Cool
3 years ago

As time has rolled by I keep thinking, if Aaron was to be involved in the decision making process, fine. Let him resign as QB. Give back the money he was paid to be the starting QB on the team and send his application in to be a subordinate to the GM. (Probably starting as a scout.) and work his way up the organizational chain. He needs to prove along the way that he is capable of evaluating talent.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Aaron has said he does not want to make those decisions. And if I infer on his other comments, he just wants a voice at the table, not the deciding voice. People take this as meaning he wants to be the GM or what not. That's not it at all -- again, based off Aaron's own words. He just wants the OPPORTUNITY to go to bat for guys who he feels will help the team win. We have to keep in perspective that he's the leader of the team. He's in the locker room, the GM and coaches aren't as in tune. Lots of guys lead by example and in the moment and aren't the rah-rah get in front of the camera type. Think of Mike Daniels. That dude talked like Tarzan and played like Jane.
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nerdmann
3 years ago
JJ thinks Aaron will show up. 

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
3 years ago

JJ thinks Aaron will show up. 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You didn't even listen to the few minutes where James Jones spoke. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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Cheesey
3 years ago
So....:if Rodgers wants a “say” in decisions. Won’t he still be just as pissed off if the FO doesn’t do what HE wants?
One big reason why the Packers have to let aging vets go is that they tend to get the most money. And there’s just so much to go around. Like I have said before, Rodgers has made a boatload of money already. If he wants a say in who stays or who goes, how about he take a pay cut so the team can afford to keep some of his loved ones?
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warhawk
3 years ago
I don't believe this rift has anything to do with Rodgers looking for more input on players or even about Jordon Love.
Aaron Rodgers envisioned retiring as a Packer, however, at some point he got the impression the FO had other plans. Now he wants to stick it to them in a "how do you dare think about moving me before I'm ready" play.. After all, in the few words he has spoken, he said winning the MVP "threw a kink in their plans." I say this because of all the speculation about "why" this is the only thing I have heard that would piss me off a whole lot as well. Maybe not enough to walk away but it would piss me off.
If this is all true than it's understandable why it has not been resolved and may not happen. What can the FO say to make this better. "yeah, you got me on that one?" It's like getting caught cheating. Those relationship do not generally end well.

I get the Front Offices position. Their job is to look into the future and do what's best for the team. Rodgers wasn't exactly great in '18, ok in '19, and there was this little issue with being in cap hell. How do you tell a guy this especially when at the time it was an option being thrown around and not set in stone? My conspiracy theory, since everyone has one, is that Arod sensed that while the Packers were being nice they had one had on his back leading to the door but when he had the MVP season he's taken that hand and is twisting it till it hurts. So now the waiting game continues to see if he can get passed it...or not. Oh well, as they say, at times the best laid plans go awry.
"The train is leaving the station."
Cheesey
3 years ago
That’s the job of the FO! To be prepared to put a new guy into whatever position on the TEAM when a player looks to be losing it.
Why did it take Rodgers realizing that he’s MAYBE in the position of being shown the door to get him to play at a MVP level? He finally started doing what MLF wanted him to do with the offense, and he flourished. The year before, he seemed to be fighting it and he wasn’t that great. Had he not been so into himself, maybe he would have had a MVP season in 2019 as well, and not looked liked the Packers better be preparing for the next QB in line.
And fact is, other then 2010, he hasn’t played great in NFC title games. He’s had his chances, and mostly hasn’t got it done. Especially in the last one. Brady gave up 3 INTs, and Rodgers couldn’t get it done. That’s on him.
Now we seem to have a few of the previously missing pieces on our D on the team, and Amari Rodgers on offense.
So Rodgers has a chance to get another shot at a RING. If he can get his huge EGO to let his poor hurt feelings go, and get his rear end into Green Bay.
His best shot at a SB is here.
If he doesn’t realize that, he’s an idiot. And it’s not like he isn’t paid well enough.
The guy can’t even get along with his family. Some day his parents will be gone, and he most likely will regret his pigheaded attitude.
I’d give anything if I could spend one more day with my Mom and Dad. My Mom has been gone 31 years, my Dad 47 years.
I hope Rodgers wakes up and doesn’t have to go through that.
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