Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
I agree with you two. Idolize Favre all you want -- just don't let it get in the way of your rationality. The Packers may have been slightly better this year with Favre at the helm; we'll never know. It's all pure speculation. But if you believe they would have been Superbowl-bound with him tossing the rock, then you must believe Favre can make the blind to see and the lame to walk, and as far as I know, only one Man is capable of that feat.

Remember, Favre himself said after last season that we might go 13-3 in 2008 -- or we could just as easily go 3-13. He wasn't as prescient as he might have seemed. Like everyone else, he was able to look at the schedule and see the ride wouldn't be as easy this year.

That may have contributed to his decision to retire: he knew he would look a lot better riding off into the sunset after a NFC Championship bid than after a potentially mediocre season in which he struggled unsuccessfully to return the team to the greatness it enjoyed only one season before.

As it turned out, he made the smart decision.
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Formo
16 years ago
Favre is God.







Oh, wait. He's no longer playing for 'Gods team', nevermind this post. 😛
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RedSoxExcel
16 years ago
I havn't gone anywhere, I never go into the NFL news section.

Honestly you can call me a "favre fan" or whatever you want, truth is I'm a Packers fan AND a football fan.

I love watching HOF'ers and greats do what they do because its so rare. I despised Joe Montana but he is what he was, great. It was still soemthing to watch even, even if your cheering against him. So I will continue to watch Favre as long as he plays because I think its rare to watch a talent like that play, he's 39 and its not going to happen for much longer.

I wish him the best, he gave us an awesome 16 years, he deserves to be happy because whatever he does has NO negative effect on the Packers. It can only help us if the Jets make the playoffs or even win the Super Bowl.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago
Well, I think the question has been answered in the Back Alley section. Favre started the year awesome, then just tapered. I think his age is catching up to him.

I'm a HUGE Favre fan, one of the biggest on this board probably. But I think he's at the point that his role should be lessened and they should be a run first team. He was solid after 11 games, an MVP consideration. Hasn't done squat since.

If he comes back next year, they need to pound the run with Jones and work Washington more into the mix. Washington's got as good a burst as anyone in the NFL and I don't see why the Jets don't use him more. If the Jets do this, Favre can excel again and play solidly a whole season. Let Favre have a more "Collinsish" role. I bet if they did, you'd see the Jets win more games.
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Heatherthepackgirl
16 years ago
I think what happens on this board is this: People say they dont really care how Brett does because hes no longer a packer, it comes across as he never existed. I for one can't flip a switch on my favorite player, he has made me a fan of football and still does. I totally understand all the die hard Packer fans on this board because it is your/my team. But that doesnt mean we cant wish the Jets to do well to.

We also cant assume everything that went down with the Packers and Favre, I bet we dont know the most what happened there. All I say is this: Everyone has the right to change their mind, I do it all the time and I am sure everyone on this board changes their minds as well from time to time. Football is Favre's life and yes he retired to soon, but then you have people saying that Favre has always held the team hostage without giving an answer right away if he was coming back or not, so now we have a guy/Favre who made up his mind to soon all because they wanted an answer at that time. Again I do not know what all happened.

I will root for the Jets to win games with Favre as their leader and I am not going to opologize for that. He is my hero and always will be.
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4PackGirl
16 years ago
my parents are my heroes & always will be. ya know - that's a great idea for a new thread - who are your heroes and why? sorry - it's the "silly season" & i'm missing my dad. just made me think, that's all.
Heatherthepackgirl
16 years ago

my parents are my heroes & always will be. ya know - that's a great idea for a new thread - who are your heroes and why? sorry - it's the "silly season" & i'm missing my dad. just made me think, that's all.

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Your are right Jules!! But there is a difference in sports heroes and heroes that you truly love. I do NOT love Brett Favre, I do love my parents and yes they are my one and true heroes. But in the sports world Brett is my hero.

I am so sorry Jules, I know the holidays are so difficult when you dont have those people that you truly love and care about around. My parents are both living, my Mom is really sick, but living far away from them during the holidays and the rest of the year is so hard. I know its nothing of what you are feeling having lost a parent. My heart is with you girlfriend.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago

I think what happens on this board is this: People say they dont really care how Brett does because hes no longer a packer, it comes across as he never existed. I for one can't flip a switch on my favorite player, he has made me a fan of football and still does. I totally understand all the die hard Packer fans on this board because it is your/my team. But that doesnt mean we cant wish the Jets to do well to.

We also cant assume everything that went down with the Packers and Favre, I bet we dont know the most what happened there. All I say is this: Everyone has the right to change their mind, I do it all the time and I am sure everyone on this board changes their minds as well from time to time. Football is Favre's life and yes he retired to soon, but then you have people saying that Favre has always held the team hostage without giving an answer right away if he was coming back or not, so now we have a guy/Favre who made up his mind to soon all because they wanted an answer at that time. Again I do not know what all happened.

I will root for the Jets to win games with Favre as their leader and I am not going to opologize for that. He is my hero and always will be.

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+1.

I don't see why we can't root for 2 teams. I root Packers first, whatever team Brett Favre is on 2nd.

What I don't get is when people have an issue with that. You put Favre's team 1st, Packers 2nd. Fine. At least you know your loyalties.

But there were people on this board who were actually rooting AGAINST Brett Favre, and I simply don't get that. Favre gave us all those awesome seasons. He set all those records as a PACKER. He will always be a Packer to me, and I'll remember him years from now as a Packer, not as a Jet or whatever team he is on next year.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago

my parents are my heroes & always will be. ya know - that's a great idea for a new thread - who are your heroes and why? sorry - it's the "silly season" & i'm missing my dad. just made me think, that's all.

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Both my parents are still alive and I can't imagine what it's like to lose either parent. If I thought about it, who are my heroes, I'd probably say the same thing you said.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
What is so strange about people rooting against a player who plays for another team? No one on this board would be rooting for the Jets if Favre weren't playing for them, so why would you assume that Packers fans would automatically root for the Jets simply because he is? There are literally dozens of former Packers playing for other teams throughout the league -- why aren't you rooting for them? Because they're not Packers anymore.

Favre is no longer a Packer, maudlin rhetoric from sentimental fans notwithstanding. Therefore, I don't root for him.
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