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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

all the packer fans . . . that turned there back on him.

"dhazer" wrote:



Leaving aside the less-than-semi-literate English (it can't be a coincidence that none of the Farvnatics seem able to write at better than a kindergarten level), this statement is not only completely illogical, it's downright insulting.

You say we turned our backs on Favre as though we somehow owed him anything. Brett Favre is nothing more than a very highly paid entertainer who has been lucky enough to earn over a QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS playing a child's game during his tenure in Green Bay. We fans have graciously paid his salary year after year, and over the past 10 years he has given us a protracted stretch of slightly-better-than-mediocre performance.

But what does he do after a 13-3 season in which he made it all the way to the NFC Championship? He gets up on the podium and tearfully tells those same fans that he has nothing left to give, that he's done. Then barely four months later -- after the draft, and after training camp is already well underway -- he shows himself a liar by wanting to come back. So when the Packers tell him, "Sorry, buddy, that ship has passed," he has the gall to tell us that we have rejected him? Not no, but hell no. He initiated the divorce, and the Packers did well to hold the line. Only a wuss takes his wife back after she's ditched him for another man.

Now he's just another player on another team, in another conference, and while I don't wish him ill, I certainly won't be rooting for him. I'll be rooting for the Jets only insofar as it improves our draft pick in next year's draft, and no further.
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Packerchick
16 years ago

Personally, i'm with Fin on this.
Favre's not a Packer anymore, so i really don't care how well or bad he does.
I'm a Packer fan.

"Cheesey" wrote:



Im with the both of you too Cheesey and Fin. We had to move on sometime, for better or for worse. I lost respect for Brett and his act too.
I am a woman and I love football.
TheEngineer
16 years ago

Hey, i know he had a couple bad games but no reason to go into hiding. Big week coming up.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



I may be a bit cynical in thinking this, but I can't help but feel you just want them all back to keep on baiting the rest of us into arguments about Favre. They're probably on the Jets forums, so go look there and leave us with our Packers.
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Cheesey
16 years ago

Hey, i know he had a couple bad games but no reason to go into hiding. Big week coming up.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



I may be a bit cynical in thinking this, but I can't help but feel you just want them all back to keep on baiting the rest of us into arguments about Favre. They're probably on the Jets forums, so go look there and leave us with our Packers.

"Gravedigga" wrote:


I think you may be onto something!
+1!
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Cheesey
16 years ago

all the packer fans . . . that turned there back on him.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Leaving aside the less-than-semi-literate English (it can't be a coincidence that none of the Farvnatics seem able to write at better than a kindergarten level), this statement is not only completely illogical, it's downright insulting.

You say we turned our backs on Favre as though we somehow owed him anything. Brett Favre is nothing more than a very highly paid entertainer who has been lucky enough to earn over a QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS playing a child's game during his tenure in Green Bay. We fans have graciously paid his salary year after year, and over the past 10 years he has given us a protracted stretch of slightly-better-than-mediocre performance.

But what does he do after a 13-3 season in which he made it all the way to the NFC Championship? He gets up on the podium and tearfully tells those same fans that he has nothing left to give, that he's done. Then barely four months later -- after the draft, and after training camp is already well underway -- he shows himself a liar by wanting to come back. So when the Packers tell him, "Sorry, buddy, that ship has passed," he has the gall to tell us that we have rejected him? Not no, but hell no. He initiated the divorce, and the Packers did well to hold the line. Only a wuss takes his wife back after she's ditched him for another man.

Now he's just another player on another team, in another conference, and while I don't wish him ill, I certainly won't be rooting for him. I'll be rooting for the Jets only insofar as it improves our draft pick in next year's draft, and no further.

"dhazer" wrote:


You may call yourself "Nonstopdrivel", but i am constantly impressed with what you write!
+1 for you!
I don't understand why not really caring what the Jets do somehow gets interpreted as "turning my back" on Brett Favre. Turning my back would mean I am against him or hate him, which isn't true. The only reason i really care is for our draft pick. I would consider myself as "apathetic" towards how the Jets do. I care the same amount how the Jets do as i care abiut say, the Miami Dolphins. I watch the Super Bowl every year, but unless the Packers are in it, I don't get excited or care WHO wins it. To me, if my team isn't in it, it's just a football game to watch.
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CDNRodgersfan
16 years ago
I'm always feeling kind of like the odd man out cause I'm one of the only ones who still idolizes Brett but am still along with all the other Packer fans. I totally understand people like Cheesey and Nonstop's point of view. It's strictly an opinion thing and where your heart leads you and that's something that can't be controlled by facts or common sense so I don't know why we try convincing others to our way of thinking about the situation. My hearts still with Brett and many of your are not. I don't see that as a problem either way I'm still a Packer fan and how others feel about Brett doesn't make me any difference. I have more a problem if others hate Rodgers cause he's the Packer qb and if we're all in the Packer family we should all be supporting him. That's the difference
Zero2Cool
16 years ago

shouldn't this be in the (i don't go there cuz it raises my blood pressure) favre section? :D

"4PackGirl" wrote:

I knew these comments would come and all I would need to do is quote one of them and you'd understand why its not in the Favre section. I'm sure you know the purpose of that section and ... you .. well read.

Hey, i know he had a couple bad games but no reason to go into hiding. Big week coming up.

"Cheesey" wrote:



I may be a bit cynical in thinking this, but I can't help but feel you just want them all back to keep on baiting the rest of us into arguments about Favre. They're probably on the Jets forums, so go look there and leave us with our Packers.

"TheEngineer" wrote:


I think you may be onto something!
+1!

"Gravedigga" wrote:





Now you know why I moved it here. 🙂 TE was spot on with this post.
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Cheesey
16 years ago

I'm always feeling kind of like the odd man out cause I'm one of the only ones who still idolizes Brett but am still along with all the other Packer fans. I totally understand people like Cheesey and Nonstop's point of view. It's strictly an opinion thing and where your heart leads you and that's something that can't be controlled by facts or common sense so I don't know why we try convincing others to our way of thinking about the situation. My hearts still with Brett and many of your are not. I don't see that as a problem either way I'm still a Packer fan and how others feel about Brett doesn't make me any difference. I have more a problem if others hate Rodgers cause he's the Packer qb and if we're all in the Packer family we should all be supporting him. That's the difference

"Cdnfavre+Rodgersfan" wrote:


I myself am not trying to change people's minds of whether or not they love Favre or not.
My point is: Some of these people are using it to blame everyone BUT Favre for the "divorce", and as a free pass to blast the Packer MGMT, and even Aaron Rodgers. Heck, even the Packer TEAM. They refuse to look at all the FACTS of what happened. They seem to use every bad game, play, or throw as PROOF that Favre was the only reason the Packers ever even won a game in his time here. As if NOTHING else had anything to do with it. Then they act as if, just because we came CLOSE to going to the SB last year, that that was some kind of a guarentee that we would have won it all this year if Favre was here.
It's just not true.
THAT is what bugs me.
If people want to worship the guy, I don't care. But don't use it to try to tear apart the Packers.
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4PackGirl
16 years ago

shouldn't this be in the (i don't go there cuz it raises my blood pressure) favre section? :D

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I knew these comments would come and all I would need to do is quote one of them and you'd understand why its not in the Favre section. I'm sure you know the purpose of that section and ... you .. well read.

Hey, i know he had a couple bad games but no reason to go into hiding. Big week coming up.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



I may be a bit cynical in thinking this, but I can't help but feel you just want them all back to keep on baiting the rest of us into arguments about Favre. They're probably on the Jets forums, so go look there and leave us with our Packers.

"Cheesey" wrote:


I think you may be onto something!
+1!

"TheEngineer" wrote:





Now you know why I moved it here. 🙂 TE was spot on with this post.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



whatever.
CDNRodgersfan
16 years ago

I'm always feeling kind of like the odd man out cause I'm one of the only ones who still idolizes Brett but am still along with all the other Packer fans. I totally understand people like Cheesey and Nonstop's point of view. It's strictly an opinion thing and where your heart leads you and that's something that can't be controlled by facts or common sense so I don't know why we try convincing others to our way of thinking about the situation. My hearts still with Brett and many of your are not. I don't see that as a problem either way I'm still a Packer fan and how others feel about Brett doesn't make me any difference. I have more a problem if others hate Rodgers cause he's the Packer qb and if we're all in the Packer family we should all be supporting him. That's the difference

"Cheesey" wrote:


I myself am not trying to change people's minds of whether or not they love Favre or not.
My point is: Some of these people are using it to blame everyone BUT Favre for the "divorce", and as a free pass to blast the Packer MGMT, and even Aaron Rodgers. Heck, even the Packer TEAM. They refuse to look at all the FACTS of what happened. They seem to use every bad game, play, or throw as PROOF that Favre was the only reason the Packers ever even won a game in his time here. As if NOTHING else had anything to do with it. Then they act as if, just because we came CLOSE to going to the SB last year, that that was some kind of a guarentee that we would have won it all this year if Favre was here.
It's just not true.
THAT is what bugs me.
If people want to worship the guy, I don't care. But don't use it to try to tear apart the Packers.

"Cdnfavre+Rodgersfan" wrote:




I think we're on the same page Cheesey. Just like you said I don't care about others liking Favre or not cause I can see why they wouldn't since he's not a Packer. I just don't want to be attacked for still loving him just like others shouldn't be attacked for not caring about him anymore. I don't see why this has caused so much division on these forums cause I see it no different now as just cause I hate Manning I don't care if others love him. As long as a guys not a packer (in which case we should all love him) why should anyone care how a person feels about any other player. And so where clear I'm actually aiming this more at the Favre lovers then the people who don't care about him anymore
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Zero2Cool (33m) : Bleh, that only impacts two games.
Zero2Cool (40m) : Packers are gonna get 3rd place division schedule next year.
Mucky Tundra (1h) : Kanata, seek help! lol
beast (3h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status
Zero2Cool (3h) : Forgot there was even a game last night haha
TheKanataThrilla (3h) : That was terrible.
TheKanataThrilla (4h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.
beast (4h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (4h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
beast (4h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing
Zero2Cool (5h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is
Zero2Cool (5h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true
beast (6h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management
wpr (8h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Mucky Tundra (15h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
beast (16h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years
Zero2Cool (22h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
packerfanoutwest (23h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it
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Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.
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beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
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buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
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