dfosterf
16 years ago
As we go about the business of solving the world's troubles, at least as how they relate to the Pack, :icon_smile: I try and remind myself that all moves made by Ted Thompson and co. on my behalf involve many elements of risk and are chock-full of some uncontrollable variables.

The possible aquisition of Haynesworth and/or Peppers is an excellent example. Will we see "payday syndrome" from Haynesworth? Does his VERY DIRTY semi-assault reflect a lack of character? Etc. etc. etc.

Then there is the problem of the primary alternative. I'm not going to go through and rehash some arguments I have already made, but the short version is that there is a very strong possiblity...more likely than not.... the absolute BEST draft prospect we can obtain will be NO BETTER, and probably WORSE than Justin (to date, mostly) bustin' Harrell at DT.

I have 5 THREADS up here to discuss the offensive line and the ZBS. Not posts....threads. The reason is because I nominated myself as designated bitcher about the offensive line. The reason I did THAT is because Pack93z seemed to be entering the psychotic mode as contrasted to my mere neurotic mode :icon_smile: when this question arose. Pack93z moved on to linebackers, and I personally invite someone and/or everyone to start an analysis of the defensive line.

Don't confuse this post with me trying to tell anyone what to do. I'm merely pointing out (as I did in my first ZBS thread) that I was attempting to break down the ZBS into various parts in order that those who do not fully understand just exactly what the hell it is could get a better appreciation of what the hell many are bitching about...with a further hope that those that understand it better than I would also interject their thoughts ... so I INVITE all to GO BACK and read and/or comment upon the various threads. They are easy to spot when you go back in pages. I also INVITE those that wish to continue to OPINE upon the defense to open a new thread. I'm not doing it , because , well, because I am aware of my "semi-bossy" nature, and am trying to "Cut-back", so to speak.

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chibiabo
16 years ago
:profileright: U R forgiven! I'm one of those that detoured ur ZBs post. Sorry but, was thinking along the lines of it's a whole team sport. U R correct on the ZBS as far as I'm concerned and have posted to that affect before.
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dfosterf
16 years ago
Sorry, but reading this the first thing that came to mind was "faint praise". Several references to how great Daryn College has been, right up until it mattered most... but I am a bitter man.

Daryn College 
Cheesey
16 years ago

I don't know why we ever went to the ZBS but I've said it before and I'll say it again,SHIT CAN IT!

"yooperfan" wrote:


I agree 100%.
It hasn't worked yet, so why keep using it???
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PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago
I gave the ZBS the benefit of the doubt. I know it has worked at other places. In GB there are aspects that I haven't liked. One is yes the pass blocking suffers from the lack of size. That mostly is in the push up the middle from the bigger DTs.

To me it is easier for the LBer to read run pass. If the line all starts shifting sideways, it is a run and pretty much know which way the run is going. Just like the RB they watch the for the crease and shoot for it. I also think it is harder to screen out the ZBS also. That has been apparent for the last couple years.

I have seen way to many runs for negative yards. Which is my biggest gripe. That may not be the fault of the scheme. IMO we would be better off going back to the man blocking, in your face, down your throat run game. With a couple of mudders like Bennett.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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