nerdmann
5 years ago
Looks like New Orleans is gonna ink Jared Cook.  

Is Graham really preferable to Cook at this point? Is there something about Cook about which we don't know? Is there a cap hit we would take by dumping Graham for Cook? Not sure.

I think LeFleur can get plenty out of Graham, just thought it was interesting.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

Looks like New Orleans is gonna ink Jared Cook.  

Is Graham really preferable to Cook at this point? Is there something about Cook about which we don't know? Is there a cap hit we would take by dumping Graham for Cook? Not sure.

I think LeFleur can get plenty out of Graham, just thought it was interesting.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I wouldn't cut Jimmy Graham to sign Jared Cook. There's something like $12,333,334 reasons why not to do that. I would have ADDED Jared Cook though. I think Graham and Cook could have been fun.
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gbguy20
5 years ago
With how you are an expert on the inner workings of the franchise I would assume you would know cutting Jimmy leaves us with a pile of dead money. Totally should have cut him tjough. Tonyan!
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nerdmann
5 years ago

With how you are an expert on the inner workings of the franchise I would assume you would know cutting Jimmy leaves us with a pile of dead money. Totally should have cut him tjough. Tonyan!

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



They cut Perry.
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gbguy20
5 years ago
Sure did. Also leaves us with a bunch of dead money. Also agree with that move.
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nerdmann
5 years ago
Not saying I would have done different. LeFleur will probably use Graham as a pass catcher/slot guy over the middle and less frequently as a lead blocker. We could see an increase in production.


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Cheesey
5 years ago
I sure hope we see more out of Graham this year.
Last season was a letdown.
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beast
5 years ago

Jimmy leaves us with a pile of dead money.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 

Dead money is dead because it's a sunk cost, it's already gone weather you keep them or release them and therefore should be completely non-factors in weather keeping or releasing a guy.

What matters is their future yearly cash... cutting Perry saved us something like $31 million over 3 years.

Graham future contract cost about $17 million over two years.

LeFleur will probably use Graham as a pass catcher/slot guy over the middle and less frequently as a lead blocker. We could see an increase in production.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

I completely agree, Graham is our version of Rams large slot WR Cooper Kupp... if you want to compare to the Rams offense.

But they still need the starting lo term blocking TE and power RB (unless Williams can fill that role). Williams has the perfectll verstility this scheme ask for of RBs, just not sure he has the elite skill set or not.


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gbguy20
5 years ago
Yes dead money is already spent. That doesn't mean the cap space it eats for a player who is not on your roster isn't a problem.
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earthquake
5 years ago
So Jimmy Graham didn't live up to the contract? Sure, I get it. He played like an average TE last year while being paid like an elite one.

Where I get lost is people who don't think he's worth any contract whatsoever, and want to take a 12 million dead money hit just to release them. I guess so they can say "I told you so!" or something. What is the point of this? What possibly argument is there that justifies the Packers eating 12 million in cap space to NOT have Jimmy Graham on the team?
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