buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

Aaron Rodgers may be missing the most important quality a top NFL quarterback needs to have. He's brilliant, he can make all the throws, it's undeniable that he's one of the best to ever play. But when it comes to the greatest signal-callers in the game, Aaron Rodgers' lack of leadership sticks out. Take Tom

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Leadership is more than rah rah.
He does make a point about Aarons expressions and demeanor at times.
Still with Aaron at qb the Packers are never out of a close game.
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nerdmann
6 years ago
Aaron needs to prove he's not becoming Jay Cutler. Hopefully, withbthis new coaching staff, he will be adhering to fundamentals and mechanics much more consistently. I think he'll be fine and will bounce back with a great season next year.
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beast
6 years ago

Leadership is more than rah rah.
He does make a point about Aarons expressions and demeanor at times.
Still with Aaron at qb the Packers are never out of a close game.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I think one of Rodgers problems is that he tries to shoulder too much himself, and doesn't share the responsibility load... such as all those times he just non-stop kept holding to the ball and ignoring the check down (even when the Seahawks seem to be completely ignoring the check down option) looking for the big play down the field, knowing he can find something... then more often than usually being forced to throw it away.

Part of that leadership, is sharing responsibilities in a group... and he did verbally try to call some other groups out, but he didn't seem to trust guys on the field, weather if it was the young WRs, throwing them an up for grabs ball, giving the responsibilities to come down with it... or trusting the RBs on check downs (which I don't understand).

Part of that was the scheme asking Rodgers to hold it, to look for the big plays... but I hope the new scheme mixes it up having some throws which Rodgers should get the ball off quickly to not let pass rushers time to get going... and using underneath routes use as RB as a receiver in the passing game.
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6 years ago
Moronic article...using the same logic, Marino was a bad leader as well. And Drew Brees was a crappy leader, except when his team does well. Then he is a great leader. Typical hack piece....ass wipe.
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yooperfan
6 years ago
I have never felt that Rodgers showed any leadership qualities, nor have I ever felt that the other on field superstar, Clay Matthews has shown any leadership qualities.
The Packers have had a leadership deficit including their former head coach for a number of years now.
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6 years ago

I have never felt that Rodgers showed any leadership qualities, nor have I ever felt that the other on field superstar, Clay Matthews has shown any leadership qualities.
The Packers have had a leadership deficit including their former head coach for a number of years now.

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Charles Woodson, Al Harris and Donald Driver have never been replaced in this aspect.
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nyrpack
6 years ago
he cant win with these idiots, he is too calm not rah rah, then he gets rah rah and everybody says hes throwing guys under the bus, ill take him anytime as my qb, and whats to bounceback from as a poster said, he had 25 tds and 2 int. 4442 yards, 90%of the leagues qbs would kill for that !!
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beast
6 years ago

I have never felt that Rodgers showed any leadership qualities, nor have I ever felt that the other on field superstar, Clay Matthews has shown any leadership qualities.
The Packers have had a leadership deficit including their former head coach for a number of years now.

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I think Rodgers has shown some leadership qualities (I believe new players have committed how as soon as they walk in the door, Rodgers comes up to them shakes their hand, knows their name and a bit about their background from day 1 welcoming them and making them feel like at home, having a normal convo, not, hey you're the new guy right)... but it's been more leader by example and not leaders of others per say... which Thompson drafted a lot of great people, that lead by example, lets call them men... but he struggled to get those leaders of men... which have that little extra to them.

I'm not saying he's one... but I like Alexander, because a bit cocky on the field and it shows, that's the little bit extra... which by the way can be both good and bad depending on where it's lead and lead by whom and what their goal is... which I don't think that cockiness is leadership, but it just feels like the Packers (especially their defense) hasn't had that swag since the Super Bowl year.


From rumors (which I have NO IDEA if true or complete BS), Matthews has strongly attempted to lead many times... but it's come off wrong... like he's trying too hard, forcing it and it makes him seem like a jerk and it's not natural smooth leadership. I can't confirm that, but I do remember "Matthews leadership" got brought up to Sam Shields and his body language negatively SCREAMED... but he gave some politically correct answer... but my interpretation was that (at minimum) "Matthews' leadership" gets on his nerves.
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6 years ago
NYRPACK, you don't get it. He is the biggest problem on the team!!
-He doesn't hit the short guys who are open early (even thought the play design and reads were targeting intermediate gain.) Its his fault.
-The lack of running game is his fault, he always goes to the Pass on RPO's....and this is un-motivating to our OL
-His giant salary is causing them to sign crappy players (even though the Eagles have backups on the OL who have started in SB)
-He shouldn't have played if his knee required surgery....that was selfish and stat whoring

Man...you just don't get it
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