ArkansasPacker
5 years ago

I think we should use a fake name for the offense so the opposing defense doesn't know what we are doing.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



New York Bozo?

beast
5 years ago
From what I've seen LaFleur's offenses generally have had a quick power runner starting and then a super quick or speedster as a backup. Preferably being able to be factors in the passing game as receviers... (also making me think Ty Montgomery might of been best in this offense but that time is gone)

But since RB seems so important in this offense and how things are worked off them, I'm thinking they draft a RB fairly high (top 4 rounds)...

Watching RB Josh Jacobs, from Alabama, I think he would be a good fit talent wise... depending how far he falls... some are not talking about him in the 1st, I'm not sure I'd take him that high.
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beast
5 years ago

Or sign one in FA that performs like a #1 RB and a #2 WR šŸ˜

Just kidding one that, I'm not advocating going after Bell.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I'm more for going after RB Bell now in this scheme than MM's.

Also RB Tevin Coleman who was with LaFleur in Atlanta is a FA.
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sschind
5 years ago

I'm more for going after RB Bell now in this scheme than MM's.

Also RB Tevin Coleman who was with LaFleur in Atlanta is a FA.

Originally Posted by: beast 


Agree on Bell but its still a lot of money.

Coleman would be interesting.

Like you said, with what we think LaFleur's offense will look like a dual threat RB is certainly more important than under MM. I'm liking that idea a whole lot.
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I'm more for going after RB Bell now in this scheme than MM's.

Also RB Tevin Coleman who was with LaFleur in Atlanta is a FA.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Why? You did see what James Conner and that other RB did in place of Bell, right? That kinda tells me a good OL and scheme > elite RB talent.

Load up on OL and DL and things will fall in line. Trust the Zero!
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gbguy20
5 years ago
We also already have Aaron Jones. Why would we have any desire to bring in anyone else who would be costlier? We have what we need already....
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5 years ago
Welcome aboard AP!

Although it would be great to have more talent in the offensive back field, and clearly we need more depth, I would rather have them spend big FA money and high draft picks on the offensive line.

The Ram game clearly illustrated that a reasonably adequate running back (not Gurley) with a good Oline can gain 100 yards.

Couldnā€™t agree more with you on two back sets (or one running back and one tight end in the backfield.) Such a formation provides far more possibilities in terms of blocking schemes and crossing action.
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beast
5 years ago

Why? You did see what James Conner and that other RB did in place of Bell, right? That kinda tells me a good OL and scheme > elite RB talent.

Load up on OL and DL and things will fall in line. Trust the Zero!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I agree it's good OL and scheme and that (and price) was my arugment for not bringing in Bell at all.

Here I just said I'd be more willing in LaFleur system than MM's system... and why? Because I think LaFleur system would maximum Bell's versile skill set (especially as a pass catchers) where Mike McCarthy would have no chance to maximize Bell's value.

We also already have Aaron Jones. Why would we have any desire to bring in anyone else who would be costlier? We have what we need already....

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 


Because one RB doesn't make a RB stable and it's clear LaFleur uses muliple RBs...

Also because Jones kept missing drives, fans would blame Mike McCarthy for not using Jones on that drive, and that drive failing... but others pointed out Jones was visiting the medical staff and wasn't available for those drive... after he got banged up (it happens to RBs especially).

You want at least 3 RB opinions to start the season... because RBs often get banged up.
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Mucky Tundra
5 years ago

Aaron Jones would benefit from more touches in the passing game and fewer in the running game. He excelled recieving the ball in college, do he's got the skills. With his size, it should keep him a little healthier too.

That said, we can legitimately spend a high pick on the RB position now, because we have a coach that will actually use that player.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Agreed Jones should be used more as a receiver out of the backfield. I said during game gamechat that I'll take him 1 v 1 against most of the lbs in this league in space.

What I'm curious about is if William's can be used more as well. He's shown himself being a top notch pass blocking back but that sorta limits you if he's a liability in the passing game.
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beast
5 years ago

Aaron Jones would benefit from more touches in the passing game and fewer in the running game. He excelled recieving the ball in college, do he's got the skills. With his size, it should keep him a little healthier too.

That said, we can legitimately spend a high pick on the RB position now, because we have a coach that will actually use that player.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Yes and he'd also benefit from more passing routes and less pass blocking, which he has done well with his second year, but I still think that has taken a larger toll on his body than getting hit has... as after.some pass blocking collusions he has had to come out of the game for a little while.

Also grabbing a RB that fits what they want and because both Jones and Williams contracts are up at the same time.in two years, nice to.jave a backup plan with them in FA at the same time.

Agreed Jones should be used more as a receiver out of the backfield. I said during game gamechat that I'll take him 1 v 1 against most of the lbs in this league in space.

What I'm curious about is if William's can be used more as well. He's shown himself being a top notch pass blocking back but that sorta limits you if he's a liability in the passing game.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Of course Williams can be used more... LaFleur likes verstility RBs, Williams isn't that athletic, but he looked extrmemely natural as a receiver and blocker... and might be more well rounded but less physical talented than Jones.
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