This is where I think that sometimes it hurts the Packers not having an owner.
A team owner not only wants profit, but wants to win Super Bowls. He (or she) wants the bragging rights.
Green Bay not having a owner means the “higher ups” are most likely concerned with profit over trophies.
That’s what I think, for what it’s worth.
Originally Posted by: Cheesey
Don't you think the Packers personal want bragging rights just as much as owners do? ... I feel pretty sure they do, and they don't have a non-football owner getting in the way (Cowboys, Redskins, Bengals) or taking leftover cap money and putting it in his pocket like some teams do (Bengals). Heck the last time I heard the Bengals still refuse to hire half the number of scouts as most of the other teams have.
We don't (necessarily) need that. UDFAs already want to come here, because they have a legit shot at making the team. Guys know that if you come to Green Bay, you will get a fair shot to make the 53. This team has a pretty good record of that.
Whether or not that's enough going forward, remains to be seen.
Originally Posted by: nerdmann
I think "guaranteed portions of base salary" is relatively new... but even before that, I believe was mostly based on guaranteed signing bonuses with GB's better shot at sticking on the 53 man roster as a GREAT tie breaker.
So I think it's still about guaranteed money, just the Packers aren't (yet) willing to do the new item. I'm just wondering how long until they're willing, just like it took a couple of years, but they finally became willing to do the one year deals too that they were against at first.
The teams guaranteeing base salaries do get higher quality UDFA on average. I can see the argument for it.
However atm the Packers don't guarantee any base salary in any of their deals. Start caving in on rookies and then the vets will want the same no?
Originally Posted by: isocleas2
I agree with your point, if you open the door for some then more will want it open for them too. But at the same time, some of those vets are getting millions of dollars in signing bonuses, where these UDFAs have gotten $6,000 at most from the Packers in signing bonuses... so it's not quite apples to apples there either.
Russ Ball, the team’s executive vice president of football operations who sets company policy and negotiates deals.
Ball would like to adhere to his fiscal policies that he established with GM Ted Thompson after they joined forces in 2008. Agents have said Ball doesn’t like setting precedent. He can be stubborn
Article in the first post wrote:
I'm also wondering if Rodgers' agent and Ball are butting heads and if that is the only reason there isn't a new contract in place, after all, rumors have it that Rodgers wants to have a new type of contract (most rumors have suggested one where the amount he makes can adjust) where as "Ball doesn’t like setting precedent."