isocleas2
6 years ago

I'm fine with people who want to put toxins or drugs or whatever into their own body in their own home. What I have trouble with is the pro-weed group saying weed has no negative at all. That's complete horseshit. I've been stoned a few times and it killed my brain processing power. Things I could normally process immediately, took much time to do.

Hell, one example. After a hit, I impatiently said "Where's your nose, I need to blow my bathroom". He casually raised his arm up, placed an extended finger on his nose and said "right here". I looked at him, glared at him annoyingly saying "wheres your bathroom?". He goes "Ohh, you wanna know where the BATHROOM is... down the hall, 2nd door on left".

I didn't even realize I completely butchered the phrase. I sat back down and said "what the hell was that about" he looked at me and laughed and told me what happened.

Maybe everyone else handles it better than me, but that was the last time I even considered experimenting with it.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



There's definitely side effects to be concerned about, pregnant women who use cannabis can have babies with lower birth weight and can lower iq in developing brains, I would recommend to everyone not to use cannabis recreationally until they're age 21+. But there's a difference between recreational use and medical use, namely that most medical treatments use the non-psychoactive form CBD. CBD doesn't get you high at all.

Also while I don't think anyone should smoke marijuana and drive studies have shown its no where near as dangerous as alcohol. i.e stoned drivers drive slower and more cautiously and drunk drivers drive more recklessly. Which if you've seen how slow people drive on the highways here in denver you could attest to.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/24/politics/marijuana-study-drivers-impact/index.html 
Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

Also while I don't think anyone should smoke marijuana and drive studies have shown its no where near as dangerous as alcohol. i.e stoned drivers drive slower and more cautiously and drunk drivers drive more recklessly.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 


What's ironic is that there is some evidence -- though by no means unequivocal -- to indicate that states with medical marijuana laws see reduced traffic fatality rates . Why this might be so remains unclear. I've read arguments that the paranoia and hypervigilance associated with cannabis intoxication may make drivers more cautious and more aware of their surroundings while driving, which seems to have the ring of plausibility to me. I'm guessing that like most things, fatality rates will regress toward the mean  over time, and the effects one way or the other won't be terribly noteworthy.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
I guess I should have put a “sarcasm alert” sign in my post. I NEVER meant they should be allowed to drink on the sidelines.
Yes, Mary Jane might have some positive uses medically. But 99.9% of users use it to get HIGH. Which is just as bad as getting drunk and then going out on public.
If the NFL allows the use, how long would it be before someone got hurt in a game, and then sue the NFL for allowing someone that ended up being positive for drug use to be on the field?
Odont believe ANY business allows its employees to be under the influence while on the job.
All the talk about the “opioid abuse” problem, now you want to make it legal to get high?
Arnt Americans brain dead enough already???
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nerdmann
6 years ago

I guess I should have put a “sarcasm alert” sign in my post. I NEVER meant they should be allowed to drink on the sidelines.
Yes, Mary Jane might have some positive uses medically. But 99.9% of users use it to get HIGH. Which is just as bad as getting drunk and then going out on public.
If the NFL allows the use, how long would it be before someone got hurt in a game, and then sue the NFL for allowing someone that ended up being positive for drug use to be on the field?
Odont believe ANY business allows its employees to be under the influence while on the job.
All the talk about the “opioid abuse” problem, now you want to make it legal to get high?
Arnt Americans brain dead enough already???

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Who's saying they should play while high?

Fact is, most of these players already light up.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Cheesey
6 years ago
Well, if they are that stupid, they deserve to get caught.
And then lose their multi million dollar jobs.
If you believe that those that use don’t get hooked and end up using all the time, you arnt being realistic.
I see all this anti smoking ads. Yet what about how harsh smoking pot is on your lungs? That stuff makes cigarettes seem like fresh air.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

But 99.9% of users use it to get HIGH. Which is just as bad as getting drunk and then going out on public.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


What's wrong with getting high? Is pleasure somehow an intrinsic evil? As long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, why should the government tell anyone they can't do something that feels good?

Yet what about how harsh smoking pot is on your lungs? That stuff makes cigarettes seem like fresh air.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


While that may be true, and it certainly makes intuitive sense, at this point there is no evidence  for an association between marijuana use and lung cancer; if anything, there seems to be a negative correlation  between pot smoking and lung cancer. No one is quite sure why marijuana doesn't seem to have the same effects as tobacco, but the research is ongoing.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

There's definitely side effects to be concerned about, pregnant women who use cannabis can have babies with lower birth weight and can lower iq in developing brains, I would recommend to everyone not to use cannabis recreationally until they're age 21+. But there's a difference between recreational use and medical use, namely that most medical treatments use the non-psychoactive form CBD. CBD doesn't get you high at all.

Also while I don't think anyone should smoke marijuana and drive studies have shown its no where near as dangerous as alcohol. i.e stoned drivers drive slower and more cautiously and drunk drivers drive more recklessly. Which if you've seen how slow people drive on the highways here in denver you could attest to.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/24/politics/marijuana-study-drivers-impact/index.html 

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



I don't disagree that some drugs inhibit driving capabilities more than others. For me, its just a blanket statement. If you're consuming anything that can inhibit your reaction time, you don't drive. Simple as that.

As for Denver, I am not sure. I did live in Greeley, CO and Fort Collins, CO and holy lordy. I thought I was going to need to buy a Lamborghini to prevent getting ran over.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
“Getting high” I have no problem with, if that’s what you want to do. The problem is that once it’s made legal to smoke pot, you will have lots more deaths on the roads by high drivers, and for a large amount of people leads to stronger drug use.
So opioid use has sky rocketed. You don’t think that legal pot will also cause skyrocketing drug use? It will.
Plus the expense once “legal”. You don’t think the government won’t want it’s cut?
People can’t pay their bills now. Can you imagine the crime rate once millions more get hooked on pot?
And from my teens, I did smoke it a few times, and I can tell you there is no way I could have safely driven a car under that influence.
It will end up a slippery slope.

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Porforis
6 years ago

So opioid use has sky rocketed. You don’t think that legal pot will also cause skyrocketing drug use? It will.
...
The problem is that once it’s made legal to smoke pot, you will have lots more deaths on the roads by high drivers, and for a large amount of people leads to stronger drug use.
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People can’t pay their bills now. Can you imagine the crime rate once millions more get hooked on pot?
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And from my teens, I did smoke it a few times, and I can tell you there is no way I could have safely driven a car under that influence.
It will end up a slippery slope.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Why wasn't it a slippery slope for you into becoming a pot -> opiod -> other hard drug user? Why didn't you drive while high, why didn't you blow all your money on pot and then turn to crime to fuel your habit?

Why is it so hard for you to fathom that if you smoked pot a few times and managed to not turn it into a life-consuming addiction, that millions of other people might be able to do the same? Yes, there's definitely people out there addicted to pot. Yes, there's plenty of people out there on hard drugs that started out with pot (which is not the same as cause and effect). Yes there's clowns out there that drive while high. But there's millions more that don't let it consume their lives.

Over 10,000 people die every year from drunk driving deaths. The estimated economic impact of alcohol abuse is $250 BILLION annually. And yet alcohol is so embedded in our culture that nobody seems to have a problem thinking of having a glass of wine with dinner most nights as being perfectly okay, or getting drunk but not plastered with the guys on Sunday as something that's normal and not a slippery slope into alcohol abuse and eventually shooting up heroin and smoking crack and robbing old ladies for drug money. The attitude is that people are responsible for their own actions and that there's a concrete difference between alcohol use and alcohol abuse, and yet for some reason people want to pretend the same thing can't exist for pot.

I personally have only smoked about 6 times in my life - I wouldn't mind doing so maybe a few times a year but it's super low on my priority list and frankly, I need a lot of it to get an effect and I'd rather spend my money elsewhere. But I find it preposterous that you can have a bar for every 1000 people in some cities in Wisconsin and it's not a public health crisis but people act like legalizing pot is going to cause mass societal breakdowns.
Cheesey
6 years ago

Why wasn't it a slippery slope for you into becoming a pot -> opiod -> other hard drug user? Why didn't you drive while high, why didn't you blow all your money on pot and then turn to crime to fuel your habit?

Why is it so hard for you to fathom that if you smoked pot a few times and managed to not turn it into a life-consuming addiction, that millions of other people might be able to do the same? Yes, there's definitely people out there addicted to pot. Yes, there's plenty of people out there on hard drugs that started out with pot (which is not the same as cause and effect). Yes there's clowns out there that drive while high. But there's millions more that don't let it consume their lives.

Over 10,000 people die every year from drunk driving deaths. The estimated economic impact of alcohol abuse is $250 BILLION annually. And yet alcohol is so embedded in our culture that nobody seems to have a problem thinking of having a glass of wine with dinner most nights as being perfectly okay, or getting drunk but not plastered with the guys on Sunday as something that's normal and not a slippery slope into alcohol abuse and eventually shooting up heroin and smoking crack and robbing old ladies for drug money. The attitude is that people are responsible for their own actions and that there's a concrete difference between alcohol use and alcohol abuse, and yet for some reason people want to pretend the same thing can't exist for pot.

I personally have only smoked about 6 times in my life - I wouldn't mind doing so maybe a few times a year but it's super low on my priority list and frankly, I need a lot of it to get an effect and I'd rather spend my money elsewhere. But I find it preposterous that you can have a bar for every 1000 people in some cities in Wisconsin and it's not a public health crisis but people act like legalizing pot is going to cause mass societal breakdowns.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Let’s see.....why didn’t I become hooked on pot? How about I WAS WORRIED ABOUT GETTING CAUGHT AND ENDING UP WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD.
That WAS a huge deterrent.
True, maybe millions of people might be able to smoke it and not abuse it. But it’s also true that millions WOULD abuse it, get hooked, and end up causing the deaths of people.
I wouldn’t be against stronger penalties for drunk drivers as well.
Too many INNOCENT people become victims of drunks.
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