Zero2Cool
6 years ago
This is a neat little chart. (move this to football familiarity section at a later date)

Does this chart add clarity of where the ball should be thrown for you?

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6 years ago
It's a nice chart but it is a little simplistic. It assumes the receiver is on a crossing pattern. On a post the target areas are all there but where is the defender? You can't throw the ball to the receivers chest if the defender is between the receiver and the QB. And what of the back shoulder pass? Sometimes the best pass is one that is short. The receiver knowing this can pull up and let the defender take himself out of the play. The passes by the sidelines where the ball needs to be in the "High" and also "In front" zone. Then there are the passes that are intentionally low allowing the receiver to get down and avoid contact.

The QB can make the perfect pass but not be in the "accurate" area.
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beast
6 years ago

Does this chart add clarity of where the ball should be thrown for you?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Not quite... is the elite part suggesting that's where elite QBs put it this last season? So therefore it's more elite to hit their edges instead of their main body?

Also, other seems to suggest that it's better to throw behind a WR, instead of in front of them?

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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Not quite... is the elite part suggesting that's where elite QBs put it this last season? So therefore it's more elite to hit their edges instead of their main body?

Also, other seems to suggest that it's better to throw behind a WR, instead of in front of them?

Originally Posted by: beast 



Yes, if the WR is running into coverage, you as a WR want that ball slightly behind you to slow down your momentum. If you're running a slant with no one in front of you, then behind would be bad targeting.
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Smokey
6 years ago
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nerdmann
6 years ago
Hundley’s problem was that he played the way Mike taught him to play, scared. He was unable and unwilling to anticipate when the WR was gonna break open, make a move or separate. All his throws were late and behind.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Hundley’s problem was that he played the way Mike taught him to play, scared. He was unable and unwilling to anticipate when the WR was gonna break open, make a move or separate. All his throws were late and behind.

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He wasn't taught to play scared, however, I do think you're right that he was scared. You could see it with his decision making. I think it was pounded into his head, from everyone (fans, teammates, coaches, media) that the season was riding on him so when he'd see a guy open, instead of immediately pulling the trigger, he'd hitch and re-cock and stare and then throw ... and guess what? The defense closes in and smacks the WR or picks it off.

That's something that bothered me a lot. Game after game, I didn't see progress on decision making. Just sling that shit. Trust your instincts! You'll get better. Shit, Peyton Manning threw more INT's in his rookie season than any other rookie ever! You gotta fall down to learn to pick yourself up.
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6 years ago

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At the risk of me looking dumb, I don't understand your post Smokey. I know who the Soup Nazi is but what does it mean here?
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Cheesey
6 years ago

At the risk of me looking dumb, I don't understand your post Smokey. I know who the Soup Nazi is but what does it mean here?

Originally Posted by: wpr 



What? You don’t KNOW?!?!
NO SOUP FOR YOU WPR!!!!🤣
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beast
6 years ago

Yes, if the WR is running into coverage, you as a WR want that ball slightly behind you to slow down your momentum. If you're running a slant with no one in front of you, then behind would be bad targeting.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yes, I got that... but why is behind, more elite? Unless, by your example... more WRs are running into coverage than out of it... (which I thought they were supposed to do the opposite of that).

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