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He openly admits in the quoted interview that one more concussion and he's done.
Rockmolder
7 years ago

He openly admits in the quoted interview that one more concussion and he's done.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



You'd have to hope, for his sake, that no one picks him up. I love the guy on the field, but there's enough damage done there, as it is.

Q: Do you have any concerns about your future health?

A: No, I don’t think so. I think I’m back to my normal self. I can just take one day at a time and try to keep conditioning to get myself ready for whatever, March or April, whatever team picks me up so I can be ready to go.



Q: Is this the type of situation where suffering another concussion would mean you definitely have to walk away? Or can you continue to play if it happens again?

A: Nah, that’s it. That’s a wrap.

Q: So one more concussion and you’re done?

A: Yeah.



I can't see how you can state both these things in one interview. You can't possibly don't feel like you won't have any long-term issues after having months of constant headaches, which get even worse when looking into light, knowing what's happening to some of these former players and accepting that one more concussion and you're done for...

I can see why you'd want to keep on playing and that's admirable, but man, you're playing with the rest of your life here.
gbguy20
7 years ago
Someone needs to send him the article about 43 year old rob Kelly.
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7 years ago
I never had close to the level of talent of that Sam Shields has, but I had the same aspirations. My sophomore year at college, I got a couple of concussions. Thank God, the coaches shut me down. I came back my junior year in great shape, but the second day of contact, another one....I was done.

Dealing with the loss of the opportunity was very difficult, especially in the moment. In many ways however, a year later, when most of the cobwebs had cleared, it was even more difficult. When you are at that point in time, you think, "hey, I'm healed...and I may not get another one."

This is probably the point in rationalization Sam is at present. Its very difficult for him to stop trying to do something that he has enjoyed doing since his youth. It is fundamental part of his self-identity.

I had people in my life who talked me out of trying to play....I hope Sam has the same kind of people in his life. He has to redefine himself and work himself into a role he can enthusiastically embrace.
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7 years ago

I never had close to the level of talent of that Sam Shields has, but I had the same aspirations. My sophomore year at college, I got a couple of concussions. Thank God, the coaches shut me down. I came back my junior year in great shape, but the second day of contact, another one....I was done.

Dealing with the loss of the opportunity was very difficult, especially in the moment. In many ways however, a year later, when most of the cobwebs had cleared, it was even more difficult. When you are at that point in time, you think, "hey, I'm healed...and I may not get another one."

This is probably the point in rationalization Sam is at present. Its very difficult for him to stop trying to do something that he has enjoyed doing since his youth. It is fundamental part of his self-identity.

I had people in my life who talked me out of trying to play....I hope Sam has the same kind of people in his life. He has to redefine himself and work himself into a role he can enthusiastically embrace.

Originally Posted by: KRK 




Over the years I have watched so many professionals struggle with the concept of leaving the game they love so much when time caught up to them. I won't say they didn't have injuries because it seems as if every professional has had to battle through a number of them.

Last night I saw the movie "Concussion" for the 5th or 6th time. I wonder how anyone can want to play the game.
the other thing I wonder about is after Aaron had his second concussion they came up with a new helmet that was supposed to lessen the chance. That's the last I heard about it. I would think if it helps Aaron why doesn't every player wear one.

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gbguy20
7 years ago
There is no helmet that can stop concussions because a concussion is not caused by the skull slamming into the helmet, or a helmet slamming into a helmet. It is the brain slamming into the skull. The only thing that can stop that is standing on the sidelines not getting your head slammed around.
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7 years ago

There is no helmet that can stop concussions because a concussion is not caused by the skull slamming into the helmet, or a helmet slamming into a helmet. It is the brain slamming into the skull. The only thing that can stop that is standing on the sidelines not getting your head slammed around.

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I understand that. For years I have been tell my clients after they have been in a car accident that there are 3 impacts. Their car hitting another object. Their body hitting something, the seat belt or steering wheel or windshield. And their brain hitting their skull.

My point was Rodgers used this "new technology" helmet and didn't have any more concussions. It is probably a coincidence but no one has said anything about it on way or the other. I was wondering if the helmet absorbs more of the energy of the impact then the impact of the brain on the skull should be lessened and that would be a good thing.
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gbguy20
7 years ago
All about momentum. No amount of cushion technology in a helmet will help. If a skull stops dead on an impact the brain is going to hit it hard, even with the world's best pillow inside the helmet. NFL needs to switch back to leather helmets, it's the only way to change the way the game is played enough to avoid head trauma. I'm not trying to argue with you by the way, I'm sure Rodgers is wearing a special helmet. I'm just arguing that all helmets are worthless preventing concussions.
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isocleas2
7 years ago
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/02/02/woodpeckers-may-get-brain-damage-from-banging-their-heads-against-trees/?utm_term=.dbfae1129093  Even the woodpeckers are getting brain damage!

I always liked shields and enjoyed his story from undrafted WR convert to a top CB, but I hope I never see him line up another down again. I don't want to see what happened to Seau and so many other great players happen to him.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

There is no helmet that can stop concussions because a concussion is not caused by the skull slamming into the helmet, or a helmet slamming into a helmet. It is the brain slamming into the skull. The only thing that can stop that is standing on the sidelines not getting your head slammed around.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Stop all concussions, no, but there are designs that can lessen the impact which can reduce the amount of concussions and reduce severity.


As for Sam Shields, when he said one more concussion and I'm done, I told myself, buddy, you are done. You can't play scared and I think if you're saying one more and you're done, you're done.
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