beast
6 years ago

Now wolf has an offer from the raiders. It's one thing to let wolf go if that is what he wants, but it is a whole other thing to tell the whole league that we won't stop him from going. Let the offers poor in. Stupid thing to do if they legitimately wanted to keep him. Makes me question the validity of that statement. But I'm not uffda, so I'll leave it at that.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Yeah I a bit confused why we're letting guys interview else where, when we normally don't... now Highsmith probably got a promotion, but I'm not sure if Wolf can be promoted without becoming a GM, as this seems like a lateral move.

Especially why are we letting them leave BEFORE the draft? ... I thought scouting types normally found new places after the draft was over, as that's when their year sorta ends and they start over for next year. So Highsmith and Wolf might know how the Packers view and like the guys in this current draft. I think I would of kept them at least until the draft (if possible) and then let them look elsewhere if they were so dang unhappy.

And if you wanted to keep them around, you could try to make them feel special and important in the mean time, trying to keep them around.
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musccy
6 years ago

Yeah I a bit confused why we're letting guys interview else where, when we normally don't... now Highsmith probably got a promotion, but I'm not sure if Wolf can be promoted without becoming a GM, as this seems like a lateral move.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I don't get any of this. The Packers can block virtually any interview aside from GM, unless I'm missing something. From Wolf's take, his path to GM in Cleveland/Oakland is no better than in GB, and especially in the case of Cleveland, you could argue it's worse (given recent instability/turnover).

Either the Packers really aren't that high on Eliot, or this situation created an insurmountable rift.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Eliot Wolf is under contract with the Packers. He was blocked twice, once from Lions and once from Eagles for GM positions. The Packers interviewed him and chose someone else. They respect him, obviously, as indicated by the numerous raises and the fact he's been working with the Packers for almost 20 years. Perhaps, it's a sign of RESPECT they are letting him seek employment elsewhere. Why is that angle so far from people's minds?

Hell who knows, maybe the Packers will ask for compensation are letting the suitors lineup to give them something in return? Personally, I think the Packers are just being classy and letting the man seek employment elsewhere. Besides, what the hell good is it gonna do to have a pissed off person that high up on your staff being forced to be employed by you if they don't want to?

You'd think Packers fans would have less sticks up their ass with not having to worry about being EMBARRASSED in the playoffs at this time of year, but holy shit!!

Ya all need to relax, chill, smoke a joint or something, damn.
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beast
6 years ago

Perhaps, it's a sign of RESPECT they are letting him seek employment elsewhere. Why is that angle so far from people's minds?

Hell who knows, maybe the Packers will ask for compensation are letting the suitors lineup to give them something in return? Personally, I think the Packers are just being classy and letting the man seek employment elsewhere.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I very much agree with you, that the Packers are doing it out of respect and telling him, we don't want to force you to stay if you don't want to... THAT BEING SAID, timing is everything, and I would MUCH PREFER if they timed this after the draft!

After all, Wolf and Highsmith probably know the players the Packers have been scouting and interested in all year... so why not wait until the draft? Plus if you want them to stay, you can try to let him have more power and hopefully try to make it more fun and interesting for them in the meantime.

Speaking of Wolf and High...

Ya all need to relax, chill, smoke a joint or something, damn.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Yes a legal joint, as we don't promote any illegal actives here on PackersHome.com,
nope, no siree, nothing illegal going on here 😉 👅

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gotarace
6 years ago
It is being reported Jr. Wolf has joined the Browns ... Sorry to see him go but hope his future is bright.

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musccy
6 years ago
The more I thought about it, it makes sense for him. I think the Browns have a golden ticket to rebuild a franchise. It'll make him look good, and I'm assuming having one employer your whole life should hinder his marketability. I don't see how he'll be a GM in Cleveland in 5 years, but it may benefit his stepping stone more than in GB.
gotarace
6 years ago

The more I thought about it, it makes sense for him. I think the Browns have a golden ticket to rebuild a franchise. It'll make him look good, and I'm assuming having one employer your whole life should hinder his marketability. I don't see how he'll be a GM in Cleveland in 5 years, but it may benefit his stepping stone more than in GB.

Originally Posted by: musccy 


I tend to agree Musccy...in Green Bay he will always be known as Ron's son. The amount of high draft choices and existing talent in Cleveland could make the entire front office look like geniuses with a winning record in the next few years.
On the Green Bay front this triangle of power reporting to "Alfred E. Neuman" Murphy leaves little room for Jr. Wolf to strut his stuff. You never know how life turns out and it might not be the last time we see Elliot Wolf in Titletown. UserPostedImage

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isocleas2
6 years ago
It's a low risk situation in Cleveland, so many people have failed to turn it around that the bar has been set quite low. If they can get them back into the playoffs Wolff might be able to springboard into another GM gig in the next 2-3 years. If yet another GM fails to turn Cleveland around Wolff may even be an internal candidate to replace Dorsey.

Versus staying in Green Bay where as long as Rodgers is here so is Gutekunst, and where the bar is set so high that likely only another superbowl run will get people's attention. Even then they'll probably just say they won because they have Rodgers 😁
Bigbyfan
6 years ago
I'm curious if the Packers will start poaching personnel guys from other teams now.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Gotta replace those we have lost.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
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