Bigbyfan
6 years ago
Lol the team is a sinking ship now too
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Brian Gutekunst indicated he would be open to doing the same for Wolf, but he badly wants the Packers' director-football operations to stay.

“I would envision him kind of being a right-hand man to me,” Gutekunst said. “We have a great relationship. I’m very fond of the person, and the scout is excellent. I’ve told him that. I really want him to be here. But I also know he has other opportunities, and I wouldn’t hold him back from that, because I care about him.

“But if he was here, I’d like to get him more involved in the college side of stuff, and have a more broader approach to what he’s been doing.”




Separately ...

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beast
6 years ago

Separately ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well that sucks... hopefully it's just to get another raise, and not to leave.

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wpr
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6 years ago

People seem to always leave out one thing when it comes to going to another team and that was how you were treated. Wolf was brought along all this time to be TT's successor and bam slapped in the face again. Could we see another staff member wanting to go to a place where they can be trusted.

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I am willing to bet no one inside 1265 ever promised Wolf anything other than the current job he was holding at the time. The only people who assumed he would get Ted's chair were people in pubs, at the water cooler, on their keyboards and iPhones.
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blueleopard
6 years ago
Wolf is 35 years old. The guy is barely old enough to be the President of the United States. Gutie signed a 5-year deal. Why should we care when we already made a decision?

If he leaves, so be it. If he stays, we're all better for it. Whether or not it happens, we'll still be in a "one or the other" situation, and I don't think anybody really went wrong here.
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Smokey
6 years ago
Picture the case, Elliot Wolf goes to work for The Browns. He, at some point, becomes their GM. He over the course of 5 years is solidly recognised as the largest factor that Cleveland wins their first SB Trophy.

In that same time period, GB continues to win their Division and loose in the Playoffs. Many continue to puzzle over just why this is so. [confused]

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6 years ago

Picture the case, Elliot Wolf goes to work for The Browns. He, at some point, becomes their GM. He over the course of 5 years is solidly recognised as the largest factor that Cleveland wins their first SB Trophy.

In that same time period, GB continues to win their Division and loose in the Playoffs. Many continue to puzzle over just why this is so. [confused]

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Wolf won't be the Brown GM for at least 5 years.
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musccy
6 years ago

Why should we care when we already made a decision?

If he leaves, so be it. If he stays, we're all better for it.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 


You answered your question with your 3rd sentence. As unrealistic as it may have been I don't like the idea of losing any of our 3 highest personnel positions. I feel Gutie was the best choice, but we're losing a scout with 20 years of experience.

I think it's indisputable any team, and esp. The Packers need to rely most on D&D so that's where you need your front office talent, and from what I read Eliot was more in the pro personnel the past few years, so that gives me an ounce of comfort...but we're still possibly seeing 40 years of experience go to Cleveland in a week.
Bigbyfan
6 years ago

You answered your question with your 3rd sentence. As unrealistic as it may have been I don't like the idea of losing any of our 3 highest personnel positions. I feel Gutie was the best choice, but we're losing a scout with 20 years of experience.

I think it's indisputable any team, and esp. The Packers need to rely most on D&D so that's where you need your front office talent, and from what I read Eliot was more in the pro personnel the past few years, so that gives me an ounce of comfort...but we're still possibly seeing 40 years of experience go to Cleveland in a week.

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With that joke of an owner in Cleveland, they'll be looking for a new job in a couple years anyway.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Now wolf has an offer from the raiders. It's one thing to let wolf go if that is what he wants, but it is a whole other thing to tell the whole league that we won't stop him from going. Let the offers poor in. Stupid thing to do if they legitimately wanted to keep him. Makes me question the validity of that statement. But I'm not uffda, so I'll leave it at that.
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