2018 Cap Freedom · PACKERSHOME

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Player Cap Hit (Dead Cap)
Randall Cobb $12,750,000 ($3,250,000)
Jordy Nelson $12,550,000 ($2,300,000)
Clay Matthews $11,400,000 ($0)
Bryan Bulaga $8,350,000 ($3,200,000)

I wouldn't mind two of them gone. Keep one of the WR, probably Jordy Nelson.

Clay (if kept) should have a 3 year extension that provides a lower 2018 cap hit.

Bulaga I think is too often injured to produce. Draft Tackle in 2nd or 3rd round.

HOWEVER -- Packers are at $145 million for 2018 which projects to be around $42 million below the projected cap for 2018. that ranks 13th in the NFL. Browns and 49ers both have over $117 million ... sickening.

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PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

And we have Burnett, Linsley and Davante up for contract. HaHa is do over 5 mil if we do the 5th year, we should probably turn that into part of his next contract and get him done also, saving money in the long run.

unless he makes a very team friendly deal, I'd let Cobb go, turning Monty back into a WR. Bulaga I'd let go. Jordy and Clay need to renegotiate so their cap numbers drop below 6 million.

I'd add Rodgers to your list also. $20.9M (0 dead cap) They need to extend him and get his cap number below 10 million.

That would be what 30 million additional space created.

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beast
Select Member

7 years ago

Player Cap Hit (Dead Cap)
Bryan Bulaga $8,350,000 ($3,200,000)
Bulaga I think is too often injured to produce. Draft Tackle in 2nd or 3rd round.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I'm guessing I'm going to be in the minority on this one, but I'm thinking they should keep Bulaga around (for now). Lets first see what the other OTs bring come 2018 training camp, then decide if Bulaga is worth his keeping around. If the OTs have made a huge jump, then he might not be worth it, but if he's still CLEARLY better than them, then he might be worth it.

Also I think Bulaga is probably going to start next season on the PUP list... which means we should have a healthy and fresh talented OL body to come back mid-season... while not having him to start might suck, based on our injury history, we're probably going to have an injury hole come mid-season and could potentially help them heat up towards the playoffs.

Of course, then depends on if they could release Bulaga, during training camp, and avoid his base salary if they thought they had someone better. Teams can't release and avoid injury players that have been injured that year... but for some reason I'm thinking (and maybe wrongly thinking) if said player is injured the year before, then they could be released and avoid the base salary.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Bump. It begins.

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beast
Select Member

6 years ago

Player Cap Hit (Dead Cap)
Randall Cobb $12,750,000 ($3,250,000)
Jordy Nelson $12,550,000 ($2,300,000)
Clay Matthews $11,400,000 ($0)
Bryan Bulaga $8,350,000 ($3,200,000)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

So the Monday saved by releasing them would be Cap Hit minus Dead Cap... so savings would be

Cobb $9.5 million
Nelson $10.25 million
Matthews $11.4 million
Bulaga $5.15 million.

I still think I'd keep Bulaga around, because I don't trust Murphy or Spriggs enough to play well enough even if they're able to stay healthy for a full season of playing.

For Matthews and Cobb, I like Zero's idea of extension that lowers the amount they're getting paid per year... but the problem is, I doubt them and their agents go for that. I might stick with Matthews for another year, as I don't think the back-ups are ready. With Cobb, I might give the back-ups a chance to take over and release him. Mike McCarthy talked about using Nelson in the slot more, and gives the outside WRs more chances.

Nelson... when ever he and Rodgers have both been healthy, he's been worth the money. So I'm thinking keep him.

yooperfan
Veteran Member

6 years ago

IMHO Cobb and Bulaga need to go.
Cobb, Matthews and Jordy can stay for less money but it’s definitely time to move on from Bulaga.

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

IMHO Cobb and Bulaga need to go.
Cobb, Matthews and Jordy can stay for less money but it’s definitely time to move on from Bulaga.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

I don't want to have just Murphy and Spriggs as RT options... so if they do get rid of Bulaga, I then hope they pick up someone else that can potentially be a very good starting OT.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Not sure if The Packers,(or Aaron Rodgers) will be comfortable going into 2018 with Adams and a bunch of unproven young guys.
I'm hoping they can somehow restructure Nelson and Cobb.
Extend them both 3 years, convert what is owed them into signing bonuses and put their base salaries at around 1 or 2 mil.

Not sure if Clay would be privy to a pay cut, he will probably be playing for someone else next year.

JMHO but I think Bulaga stays. He is a warrior. he is due to have a year where he plays most games.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Not sure if The Packers,(or Aaron Rodgers) will be comfortable going into 2018 with Adams and a bunch of unproven young guys.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Why would the Packers release every WR except Davante Adams? I think guys like Ty Montgomery (assuming he goes back to WR), Jeff Janis and Trevor Davis and even Geronio Allison will help. Plus, there's a good chance we'll blow a 2nd or 3rd on a TE or WR too that could help contribute.

All Packers need are WR and TE who are assignment sure. They don't need Randy Moss to be successful.

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#10

Not sure if The Packers,(or Aaron Rodgers) will be comfortable going into 2018 with Adams and a bunch of unproven young guys.
I'm hoping they can somehow restructure Nelson and Cobb.
Extend them both 3 years, convert what is owed them into signing bonuses and put their base salaries at around 1 or 2 mil.

Not sure if Clay would be privy to a pay cut, he will probably be playing for someone else next year.

JMHO but I think Bulaga stays. He is a warrior. he is due to have a year where he plays most games.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Doesn't the NFLPA go crazy when teams try and force players to take a cut when they have a contract?

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