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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

What? You are not buying into the bit about Mikey being such a great QB genius? I mean look how he created Aaron Rogers from linebacker spare parts in his basement on Tuesday afternoons!

Originally Posted by: wpr

What helped McCarthy with QB's was the QB school that's basically nothing now because of the CBA restrictions.

In one of those careful what you ask for thoughts, I kinda wanna see Rodgers with a different Packers HC just to see how the new OC/HC use him.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#22

What? You are not buying into the bit about Mikey being such a great QB genius? I mean look how he created Aaron Rogers from linebacker spare parts in his basement on Tuesday afternoons!

Originally Posted by: wpr

Hell I forgot Aaron walked off the campus of Cal and onto Lambeau field as the GOAT, oh except of course for Tom Brady .

Shame Mike wasted those 1st 3 years of his career.

I bet Aaron was pissed to watch Alex Smith's career just take off and flourish under 3 different Head Coaches and 5 different OC's his first 5 years .
Funny how, Smith seems to be pretty Damn good since he has been with Andy Reid the last what 5 years
Why the hell did Ted Thompson hire Mike when he could have had Andy Reid?

Wait he couldn't because Reid was with The Eagles going to the playoffs year after year.

Eagle fans have to be happy that Reid was finally fired 5 years ago and they might just might finally make the playoffs again.

I have to agree this has been nothing but 11 years of total fuck ups by Ted Thompson and Mike.

This bullshit of playing winning football and not making The Super Bowl every year has to stop.

I say The Packers trade GM, Coaching Staff, and throw in The training staff straight up to The Brown's for theirs.

Everybody will be happy here at Packershome.

The 3 major problems will be gone and The Packers can start going to The SB every year!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#23

Alex Smith became a force only after Mahomes was drafted to be his replacement. Being with Andy Reid or Harbaugh did nothing for him. Never seen anything like the Alex Smith situation. Was mediocre until Pat Mahomes made him look over his shoulder. Going to guess he goes right back to being Alex Smith if he's done in KC after this season.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#24

Didn't say Hill was a savior, just that he played better.
And Hundley did ok? Sure....I guess we were watching a different Hundley.

I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

#25

Didn't say Hill was a savior, just that he played better.
And Hundley did ok? Sure....I guess we were watching a different Hundley.

I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Yeah Hill did better... but that seemed to be because the 4th string guys couldn't keep up with his running speed, and a 4th string guy would blow a coverage sooner or later and someone would be wide open.

Porforis
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#26

So Hill was going to be the savior this year.
Another Ted Thompson fuck up.
This whole thread is laughable.

Go to any article on FB and read the comments , everybody is an expert.
Laughable

There's only 1 member of this forum who is happy today.
Laughable.
So let's go ahead and crown Philly, Vikes, Saints and Rams.
Surely after 8 weeks the races care over a
Nothing is going to change !
Laughable!
Hook, line and sinker!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Every time I bring up certain people suggesting we trade Rodgers, start Huntley for an instant super bowl people get cranky but it still makes me laugh. As with everything else and with ALL of us (including me, despite my hard work to avoid it) oversimplifying absolutely everything, we always want someone to blame. The fact is, it's a massive assortment of mistakes, poor performances, random bad bounces, all outweighing a wide assortment of good to great moves that's to blame for where this team is where it's at right now.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#27

Look at the bright side: If the Packers trade away Rodgers, not only will they get some awesome draft picks in the immediate future, but Green Bay will be reeling in high draft picks every season for the foreseeable future too. It's win-win!

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

What the hell are you talking about boy? You're rambling on in some kind of incoherent manner. Take a couple of breaths and relax.

Let me draw it out a little for you. Mike has done fine with Aaron. But people who are busy kissing Mike's but fail to factor in that Aaron is a rare and unique player. He would have succeed with a lot of HCs not just Mike and Mike alone. He growth and development would have been a lot different if he was tossed into the starting job in week 3 of his first season. His growth and development wold have been different if he had 3 or 4 HC in his first 5 or 6 years.

Mike did fine with helping Aaron develop but he is not a QB genius. Other QBs who played for McCarthy are/were:
Favre, He doesn't count because he was already starting QB and successful when McCarthy showed up as HC.

Flynn, Harrell, Hundley, Martin, Nall, Tolzien and Wallace. Which one of these players blossomed under the tutelage of McCarthy? Which one had a half way decent career? Which one became a starter after leaving GB?

McCarthy has been fortuitous. He coached Favre as QB coach in 99 and later as HC. And now he has Rodgers. He didn't light up the world as QB coach in KC or as OC in NO or SF. As I said he is a decent coach but he is not some genius that has QBs lining up to listen to him talk.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#29

McCarthy has been fortuitous.

Originally Posted by: wpr

That he's had the opportunity to work with Favre and Rodgers is fortuitous. McCarthy himself has been fortunate. 😝

*takes pedant hat off*

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#30

MM was coordinating the 32nd ranked O when we hired him, and preferred Smith to Rodgers.

Ever wonder where we'd be right now had we traded Hundley? Hill would still be here. We cut Hill and Callahan but somebody wanted Hill enough to stick him on their 53 while nobody wanted to put Callahan on theirs.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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Zero2Cool (14h) : I guess 3 games. Whatever

Zero2Cool (14h) : Bleh, that only impacts two games.

Zero2Cool (14h) : Packers are gonna get 3rd place division schedule next year.

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beast (17h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status

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TheKanataThrilla (18h) : That was terrible.

TheKanataThrilla (18h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.

beast (18h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent

beast (18h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime

beast (18h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing

Zero2Cool (19h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is

Zero2Cool (19h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true

beast (20h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management

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Mucky Tundra (27-Dec) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago

beast (27-Dec) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years

Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.

packerfanoutwest (26-Dec) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it

beast (26-Dec) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done

Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.

Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore

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beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

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