beast
7 years ago

Not sure what Biegel can do this year. But, we saw how quick Martinez picked up the D last year and like Martinez, I expect Biegel has assimilated the playbook as well as any rookie w/ very limited practice can possibly do. He is a leader stud w/ great football acumen and an unrelenting drive. He was a better college player than TJ Watt, though some think Watt’s game translates better to NFL better, we’ll see. Biegel will be assignment sure, just not sure if he’ll be able to beat NFL Tackles this year. If he gets some snaps, some motor sacks will come while he does a decent job holding the edge, covering TEs and Backs and playing his hook zone responsibilities. Then next year when he’s a bit stronger, another year removed from injury, playing faster like Martinez did this year, you'll see why the hype...I hope!

At least 1 team took him off their draft board for the foot problems and it’s unimaginable the 1265 med staff didn’t feel the same way or very close to it. This means Ted had to have a 2nd round grade on him to pick him early 4 and liked him much better than Lawson. We see how Lawson’s been doing, so it is intriguing.

Biegel just might make a few plays per game this year and I expect him to at least become a special teams demon.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



I think Martinez is more the exception to the rule. I don't expect most to pick up the defense that fast. Of course, that being said, Biegel could be another exception due to the fact he seems to be very instinctual, great motor and has been playing 3-4 OLB for years.

Yeah, I thought the pick was gonna be Lawson. Two Auburn DL back to back with Adams, then Lawson... but nope, surprise Biegel! I like Biegel, I just thought Lawson was the better full time edge rusher (like Nick Perry), where Biegel was more versatile (like Clay Matthews), which I thought we already had a potential prospect covered with Fackrell.

Why do you think Ted had to have a 2nd round grade on Biegel? Lawson also had injury concerns... Lawson missed 2 years (outta four) with season ending injuries. I figure that must be why Lawson fell so far.



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Barfarn
7 years ago

They also just added a foot specialist to their staff, perhaps coincidentally.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Didn't know that! But that is a real good idea and not just for Biegel. Lacy fell because of foot concerns and that worked out foot wise, lol. There's probably 20 guys per draft that have foot issues of various concerns.

I think Martinez is more the exception to the rule. I don't expect most to pick up the defense that fast. Of course, that being said, Biegel could be another exception due to the fact he seems to be very instinctual, great motor and has been playing 3-4 OLB for years.

Yeah, I thought the pick was gonna be Lawson. Two Auburn DL back to back with Adams, then Lawson... but nope, surprise Biegel! I like Biegel, I just thought Lawson was the better full time edge rusher (like Nick Perry), where Biegel was more versatile (like Clay Matthews), which I thought we already had a potential prospect covered with Fackrell.

Why do you think Ted had to have a 2nd round grade on Biegel? Lawson also had injury concerns... Lawson missed 2 years (outta four) with season ending injuries. I figure that must be why Lawson fell so far.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Ya Beast I thought Lawson was the pick too. When Ted picked a guy from the same position group I was actually kinda shocked and searched for the reason why. After comparing the draftnik reports/internet stories, watching some film and mainly seeing what the 32 GMs did 😂, I think Lawson went just about right. He's got some knuckleheadedness on his resume. I think that's why he fell from where you'd might otherwise think he be picked given his talent and SEC production. He had a rib injury and knee injury that he was past and those are not the types of injuries that cause teams to remove a guy from the board.

Biegel has had problems with his feet in High School; then twice at Wisc. Finally culminating in surgery last September. These feet issue chill GMs. ACLs, Achilles or alot of other injuries you might thing are really bad, ya know, as long as it wasn't catastrophic like Sherrod, the GMs dont get too worked up about as long as the guy played a year on the repaired body part. But, these foot injuries can destroy a career. The team that pulled him is saying we dont care what round you fall to, we'll call ya after draft if not picked. Ted knew Biegel's history and the strong odds the foot will fail again, and possibly again and again, so it was a gamble.

And I dont think Ted gambles unless he has substantial odds. I just cant see Ted taking Beigel if there was anyone near the tier Biegel was in. So I dont think Ted pick's Biegel if he carried a third round grade, heck he may have been a low first rounder sans foot issues to Ted. What this kid did last year was simply amazing given his bum hoof.

And yes, Martinez is the exception, so was Adams, so was Rich Rodgers, so was Monty and so is Vince 😁. Ted really values that in players, attitude and football acumen is Ted's #1 measurable 😁
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