Is Goode bad? Or is Goode gooder???😝

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

I think he's a bit of a Goode two-shoes.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 

Is Goode bad? Or is Goode gooder???😝

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

Dude gets pushed back after the snap and can't get downfield to cover kicks. But he does get the snap perfect everytime and even can make the laces line up however the kicker wants them.

If they go wih Goode, Janis has a better shot to make the team, because they'll need gunners. Any word on Demetri Goodson?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Seems like you're taking that straight from Michael Rodney's article... But think about something, the NFL doesn't allow people to straight up rush LSer, so why is the LS getting pushed back? ... because it's not so much being pushed back as the Punt OL seems to be taught to hop back a bit and tighten up and help each other, more than they're being pushed straight back. But the LS is the furthest out, so he has drop back more than the others to make the line even. So yes Goode goes backwards at first... but it seems to be by play design.

You can really see it at 4:16 of this video, where the Punt OL is retreating back before the rush even gets to them.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Goode doesn't get downfield very well, and he's 32 now. It's one of those things where they'll try to replace him every year. If they new guy can get the ball delivered, we can cut Janis for someone who can actually contribute.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

So if the LS can run better than the Packers no longer need a good gunner? That makes no sense... it's like saying if the Center can pass block better than we don't need as good of a WR.

The best ST Gunner are important to a ST unit no matter if a LS can run or not.

Originally Posted by: beast 

If you can't have two coverage guys, you need one that's extra good.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

If the positions were equals as "coverage guys" responsibility, then that might make sense. But the positions responsibility in their coverage roles are on opposite ends... and LS responsible for snapping and blocking both come before his role of coverage person.

Those gunners being extra good can't be made up by a single guy on the going from below average to average.... because the guys on the lines have to wait until the ball is punted before they're allowed to leave, so they're not going to get many early first crack on tackles like gunners will.

Also how good in coverage is the average LS? ... probably not that good... I much rather be extra good at LS and gunners than the LS is in coverage, because if he's always making the tackles then the punt coverage team probably sucks.

Originally Posted by: beast 

If the positions were equals as "coverage guys" responsibility, then that might make sense. But the positions responsibility in their coverage roles are on opposite ends... and LS responsible for snapping and blocking both come before his role of coverage person.

Those gunners being extra good can't be made up by a single guy on the going from below average to average.... because the guys on the lines have to wait until the ball is punted before they're allowed to leave, so they're not going to get many early first crack on tackles like gunners will.

Also how good in coverage is the average LS? ... probably not that good... I much rather be extra good at LS and gunners than the LS is in coverage, because if he's always making the tackles then the punt coverage team probably sucks.

Originally Posted by: beast