Smokey
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8 years ago
As fans of the Green Bay Packers, it was not easy to see then loose to Atlanta in the NFC Championship Game. The loss has however highlighted some of the changes that forum members would like to see. These changes include, but are not limited to the following :

1) Replace Ted Thompson as GM of the Packers.

2) Replace Dom Capers as GB's Defensive Coordinator.

3) Reset GB's Team priorities, placing the Teams Defense ahead of the Offense.

4) Reevaluate the entire Packer roster with the focus on talent, speed, brains, age, etc. ...

5) Address the repair/rehabilitation of Lambeau Field as well as the Teams Facilities as needed.

This thread has been created for this forums members to file their opinions as to the future operations of the GB Packers. All post will be seriously considered as all sides deserve to be heard .

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The_Green_Ninja
8 years ago
Instead of freaking out, here is what needs to happen.

1. Ted Thompson needs to announce that after 2017, he will be stepping down to give the GM position to Elliott Wolf. In this time, Elliott Wolf will basically work side-by-side with Ted. Wolf will probably be more aggressive in FA and Ted will probably let him do it.

2. Dom Capers needs to be talked to by the staff if he thinks he can continue to produce. Hopefully, the team can gracefully lead him to retirement by saying "if we can't find success with this team this year, we will have to find new directions." And hey, a man in desperation can do wonders. If he decides to take the challenge, have someone on your staff you are ready to give the keys to early midseason. Midseason changes are not fun, but if you involve that possible replacement close in power to what Dom does, the switch shouldn't be bad.

3. Trade down and get yourself many defensive players with high ceilings.

4. Resign Eddie and Cook and Lang

5. Resign Shields, but no way at the contract he is at. See where he is at in preseason. If we lose him to another team and he "magically" becomes normal, we will never forget it.

6. See if Aaron will re-do his contract just a liiiiiiiiiittle bit to get that FA he wants.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago
Does anyone actually remember what happened before we made it to the SB in the 2010 season? Anyone?

It's not rocket science. We had an infusion of new coaches. New passion. Different voices and a recently acquired difference maker on D. I'm not sure why this needs to be over thought. Make some changes to our leadership and bring in difference makers on D or even O. Add something to get excited about. There was a unique energy back then that hasn't been around since. Give the team and fanbase something to energize us. Not status quo. That's a buzz kill.

Can't you see Finley on Family night? U can't?




We had an energy and an expectation something great was coming. Haven't felt that in a long time. Only comes through big moves. Let's make them. New GM...new HC... new DC. Make a splash in FA. Do you hear that? Kerplunk... Brett Favre acquired in trade...kerplunk...Reggie White given biggest contract in NFL history at the time...Kerplunk...Santana Dotson and Sean Jones signed for a SB run... Boom, Lil' Vinny hoisted in Nawlins. Oh, not enough? Kerplunk...new staff members brought in including Dom, Kevin, Mike, etc... new voices on D. Splash...Woodson and Pickett. Splash... trade up with use of our pick obtained in Favre trade for Clay Matthews after getting a stud at 9. ===SuperBowl in Dallas.

Added just Peppers...almost...choke.

Added Cook, got healthy, huge run... debacle due to nothing on defense.

What are we going to do in 2017? Sit on our hands which is TT's preferred method? OR... Are we going to go ALL IN, for freaking once? I can tell you what each thing will mean. Let's actually try to win it not flat line so we can make playoffs two years from now and lose. Let's try to win NEXT SEASON. ALL IN. Geesh, we have the QB. Give him some defense for once... it's been 6 years of dread there.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


hardrocker950
8 years ago
1 - Get Capers out NOW! He can't make adjustments and he loves that zone defense regardless of who we play. This coverage of his gets lit up regularly. Injuries played a part, but you can't expect to get stops on defense by playing soft coverage against guys like Julio. I lost all hope today when I saw guys crossing over the middle uncovered, nor contested in any form until they already had the ball in their hands. I will be hesitant to watch anymore games as long as he has this job.

2 - Ted needs to either spend a few bucks on much needed free agents, or step down for someone who will. Seriously - people use the "small market" excuse as to why he "has a hard time inking players." Yes, because so many guys would rather go to Cleveland for the endorsement opportunities over playing for a CONTENDER? Adding his lack of success on drafting defensive players and you end up realizing he is not as amazing as people think. I have no faith in him to improve anything.

3 - Training staff needs evaluated/replaced. We are always one of the most injured teams and it would be insane to continue believing that we are simply unlucky. Hamstring injuries are a regularity - UNACCEPTABLE! Some will disagree, but my opinion on the matter will not change.

4 - Going along with #2, We NEED to get a shutdown corner. As I am well aware that we started the season with Shields, there is a good chance they won't have him next year. There needs to be a plan to either bring him back, or someone who is capable of his role.

5 - DBs need to work out with the receivers and learn to catch a ball. We have seen so many missed opportunities literally slip out of their hands. That near pick in the end zone against Atlanta was basically their last change to get any traction in that game, and predictably it got away.
Laser Gunns
8 years ago
1- Dom needs to go. 5 years ago.

2- Ted needs to go, this year or the next.

3- McCarthy stays. No question. A full offseason to design around a more open/flexible running scheme with Monty instead of tubby.

4- Sign Cook, shouldn't be too expensive.

5- let C. Matthews know, his seat is getting 🔥

6- renegotiate, but keep Peppers. Move him to a "KGB" role. I wouldn't dump him yet, bigger holes to fill first.

7- Start Kenny Clark

8 - Change Montgomery's number

9- retire Shields ($$$)

10- Draft CBs, ILBs, DE, TE (to pair with cook)

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Smokey
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8 years ago


2 - Ted needs to either spend a few bucks on much needed free agents, or step down for someone who will. Seriously - people use the "small market" excuse as to why he "has a hard time inking players." Yes, because so many guys would rather go to Cleveland for the endorsement opportunities over playing for a CONTENDER? Adding his lack of success on drafting defensive players and you end up realizing he is not as amazing as people think. I have no faith in him to improve anything.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



My reasoning for replacing Ted Thompson as GM is not with the good idea of building a team through the draft first and then looking to the free agent market as he has tried to do, but that he has done a poor job with drafting Defensive CBs.
In addition, some of his choices for the Defensive Line lack aggressiveness. It could also be that Dom Capers puts good players in poor formations that fail dreadfully. Last it could be poor players being poorly coached.

My point is this : Draft better players (CBs are currently the greatest need) and place them in defenses that allow them to succeed. Free Agents should also be considered as well, but let's build up the Packer Defense FIRST, starting with a new GM and DC . The new motto should read, Defense Rules .

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mojaveson
8 years ago

1- Dom needs to go. 5 years ago.

2- Ted needs to go, this year or the next.

3- McCarthy stays. No question. A full offseason to design around a more open/flexible running scheme with Monty instead of tubby.

4- Sign Cook, shouldn't be too expensive.

5- let C. Matthews know, his seat is getting 🔥

6- renegotiate, but keep Peppers. Move him to a "KGB" role. I wouldn't dump him yet, bigger holes to fill first.

7- Start Kenny Clark

8 - Change Montgomery's number

9- retire Shields ($$$)

10- Draft CBs, ILBs, DE, TE (to pair with cook)

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



I agree with you on 9 out of the 10 points. [rock] #8 isn't a big deal to me.
Winners never quit and quitters never win. - Vince Lombardi
8 years ago
with all this talk about firing Capers, look at what Thompson gave him. and is Matthews worth 17mil?
Smokey
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8 years ago
Montgomery may not be listed as a RB next season if Lacy / Starks return healthy they will compete with Christine Michael. He may then earn a spot in the WR core. He has earned his spot, but where it will be next season is yet to be determined.

More important, GB's new motto should read - DEFENSE RULES !

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steveishere
8 years ago

My reasoning for replacing Ted Thompson as GM is not with the good idea of building a team through the draft first and then looking to the free agent market as he has tried to do, but that he has done a poor job with drafting Defensive CBs.
In addition, some of his choices for the Defensive Line lack aggressiveness. It could also be that Dom Capers puts good players in poor formations that fail dreadfully. Last it could be poor players being poorly coached.

My point is this : Draft better players (CBs are currently the greatest need) and place them in defenses that allow them to succeed. Free Agents should also be considered as well, but let's build up the Packer Defense FIRST, starting with a new GM and DC . The new motto should read, Defense Rules .

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



He did draft a CB who this season was a pro-bowler and 2nd team all-pro 😁 . I mostly question the ability of DBs and LBs to run Dom's defense (specifically zone coverage). We are in the NFC Championship and we have guys who have been starting all season passing off the best WR in the game to air. We had guys like Hayward and House who go on and play solid football in other schemes who while they showed a lot of ability here also had a lot of moments where they looked lost and confused.

Every year pretty much every player in our defense has several moments where they don't know what to do or are on a different page as someone else. We actually had a pretty good front 7 this year so I don't care if Sam Shields was out there's no reason our secondary should have been exposed that badly. Dom's defense can't cover for any weaknesses AT ALL. We need basically pro bowl players at every level for the scheme to not just work but to not be an utter embarrassment. Pretty much any defense would work in that case.

We can draft more CBs and bring in some FAs but if they struggle to learn and execute the overly complicated coverages the defense will still be bad.
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