Zero2Cool
8 years ago
The Packers WR2 Davante Adams twisted his ankle against the Cowboys and I've seen some say the following.

with it sounding likely Davante will be the 2015 version if he plays at all.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Not true and here's why.

2015
Adams was touted as off-season MVP
Jordy Nelson lost for the year
Randall Cobb battled shoulder AC Joint all season

When Adams rolled his ankle, in my opinion, he didn't want to let the team down (see previous items listed) so continued to suit up when he should have been sat. We saw his confidence erode further and further while his QB never stopped believing in him, evidence by the plethora of targets he was getting. Amazingly enough, even with that injury, Adams was consistently getting separation. We should give him credit for that, at least.

So, why is 2016 different? Adams has his confidence back and he now knows how to play while hurt. He knows he doesn't have to be the WR1 for the Packers to win because Cobb is healthy and so is Jared Cook. He simply has to be a threat, and even with a bum ankle, he absolutely will be a threat.

While I admire Adams receiving talent, I feel he's a mental midget of sorts and can't handle the spotlight which was shining bright on him during 2015.

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uffda udfa
8 years ago
Does your opinion change after MM said if it was a regular season game he would sit him?

What about the tweet that said this just like last year's injury?

Both of those news items would give me pause and make me believe we'll see the 2015 version on Sunday. Just hoping Aaron isn't forcing them into him with the disastrous results from last year.

Most said his injury was the reason he sucked last year. If he has the same injury why change your opinion now? Inconsistent logic. Can't have it both ways. You can disagree with my take but at least it's consistent.

My only hope is MM is pulling a little gamesmanship and he's really just fine. We'll know pretty quickly.
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musccy
8 years ago


Most said his injury was the reason he sucked last year. If he has the same injury why change your opinion now? Inconsistent logic. Can't have it both ways. You can disagree with my take but at least it's consistent.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I'm with you on this one. Save for gamesmanship, it takes the aid of wishful thinking to conclude he'll be fine and back to normal on Sunday.

steveishere
8 years ago
Adams biggest problem last year wasn't confidence. He was running around out there like 2014 AJ Hawk like he was running in a swimming pool with his feet stuck in buckets of cement. Defenders running the route for him at half speed. If the injury leaves him running like that then there's no way he should suit up. I don't necessarily think same kind of injury automatically means exact same result though so if come Saturday he can run and cut on it then yeah we'll need him out there.
Barfarn
8 years ago
Adams will be 100% or close to it.

He went out at beginning of 2nd to last drive and only missed 2 plays [GB did call a TO out after the 1st].

His ankle was taped low, not high-very important! I watch his every movement walking in an out of the huddle, blocking, cutting running, etc. for the rest of game and there was no indication he was injured. During Dallas' last drive, the ankle had some time to stiffen. But, on GB's ensuing drive Adams looked perfectly normal, even failed to show any gimp whatsoever walking in and out of huddle.

I'm sure the ankle was as sore as heck Monday. It is in this weakened condition that the greatest risk to injury is at hand and that is why he is not practicing, also it slows recovery. Adams no doubt got treatment Sunday night, a regiment of compression, massage, elevation, icing, maybe electrical stimulation. I'm sure GB has some anti-gravity treadmills and they may have even used PRP treatments. Those micro tears will heal in a few days. All ankle sprains are not alike!

In 2015, Adams was slowed a bit by his ankle injury; but the stark lack of statistical output was caused by 2 things: (1) when he was healthy his QB stunk; and (2) he was a typical 2nd year WR in MM's system that had not mastered the playbook or mid-play route adjustments causing him not to play as fast on certain plays. Oh, and he'll be playing even faster next year.
uffda udfa
8 years ago

Adams will be 100% or close to it.

He went out at beginning of 2nd to last drive and only missed 2 plays [GB did call a TO out after the 1st].

His ankle was taped low, not high-very important! I watch his every movement walking in an out of the huddle, blocking, cutting running, etc. for the rest of game and there was no indication he was injured. During Dallas' last drive, the ankle had some time to stiffen. But, on GB's ensuing drive Adams looked perfectly normal, even failed to show any gimp whatsoever walking in and out of huddle.

I'm sure the ankle was as sore as heck Monday. It is in this weakened condition that the greatest risk to injury is at hand and that is why he is not practicing, also it slows recovery. Adams no doubt got treatment Sunday night, a regiment of compression, massage, elevation, icing, maybe electrical stimulation. I'm sure GB has some anti-gravity treadmills and they may have even used PRP treatments. Those micro tears will heal in a few days. All ankle sprains are not alike!

In 2015, Adams was slowed a bit by his ankle injury; but the stark lack of statistical output was caused by 2 things: (1) when he was healthy his QB stunk; and (2) he was a typical 2nd year WR in MM's system that had not mastered the playbook or mid-play route adjustments causing him not to play as fast on certain plays. Oh, and he'll be playing even faster next year.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Thank you, Doc Mackenzie. 😁


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uffda udfa
8 years ago
From Packer Report's, Bill Huber:

“You trying to see if I’m going to play like last year because of my ankle? I won’t be playing like last year,” he said on Thursday. --- Well, I feel better now that Davante said this. #Sarcasm

"I definitely wouldn’t play if it’s going off comfortability because it’s not going to be comfortable,” Adams said. “It’s just a matter of how much that I can put up with and go out there to where I’m able to be myself and express myself in my routes the way I do and not hurt the team by being out there. So, I’m just going to do what I can to make sure I can be available and then after that we’ll see.”
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Does your opinion change after Mike McCarthy said if it was a regular season game he would sit him?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Compiling everything I've heard (audio from players and those who've talked to him), I'm absolutely convinced he's going to have a good game. It's obvious to anyone that when someone drops easy balls its lack of focus, which often comes from lack of confidence. He didn't have confidence last year (like he does now) and his focus was shot because of how overwhelmed he was with all side stuff from last year.

Morgan Burnett is the one we have to worry about. Adams is going to do his part as he has all season.

BOOK IT BABY!!

GO PACKERS!!!!
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sschind
8 years ago

Adams will be 100% or close to it.

He went out at beginning of 2nd to last drive and only missed 2 plays [GB did call a TO out after the 1st].

His ankle was taped low, not high-very important! I watch his every movement walking in an out of the huddle, blocking, cutting running, etc. for the rest of game and there was no indication he was injured. During Dallas' last drive, the ankle had some time to stiffen. But, on GB's ensuing drive Adams looked perfectly normal, even failed to show any gimp whatsoever walking in and out of huddle.

I'm sure the ankle was as sore as heck Monday. It is in this weakened condition that the greatest risk to injury is at hand and that is why he is not practicing, also it slows recovery. Adams no doubt got treatment Sunday night, a regiment of compression, massage, elevation, icing, maybe electrical stimulation. I'm sure GB has some anti-gravity treadmills and they may have even used PRP treatments. Those micro tears will heal in a few days. All ankle sprains are not alike!

In 2015, Adams was slowed a bit by his ankle injury; but the stark lack of statistical output was caused by 2 things: (1) when he was healthy his QB stunk; and (2) he was a typical 2nd year WR in MM's system that had not mastered the playbook or mid-play route adjustments causing him not to play as fast on certain plays. Oh, and he'll be playing even faster next year.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



That's all well and good but what everyone really wants to know is how was his breathing?

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