PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
I don't think he is underrated. I actually think because of the QBs he has had to work with, as a coach he is probably overrated. Put McCarthy in Chicago instead of Green Bay and give him Grossman, Greise, Orton, Cutler as his QBs and he is probably an OC someplace today instead of being a head coach 1 game from another SB.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
A HC with Brett and Aaron back to back should have been in the chip more than that!

Only 4 times in 11 years? New England has been there 6 years in a row!
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Only 4 times in 11 years?New England has been there 6 years in a row!

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Because what New England has done and is doing is so common, right? This is kind of where I'm going with what the Packers and Mike McCarthy have done is not really being appreciated by some. Not all, just some. Which is fine. You can't please everyone. Some are simply impossible to please and have unrealistic demands.

Check out the story about how McCarthy handled the team after the Redskins loss.
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Rick12
7 years ago

I don't think he is underrated. I actually think because of the QBs he has had to work with, as a coach he is probably overrated. Put McCarthy in Chicago instead of Green Bay and give him Grossman, Greise, Orton, Cutler as his QBs and he is probably an OC someplace today instead of being a head coach 1 game from another SB.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

You can say that about any HC unless you are talking about NE Mikes GM is of no help to him in season you're Record is what it says you are in Mikes Case his has for years Go Pack GO !!!😕

PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

You can say that about any HC unless you are talking about NE Mikes GM is of no help to him in season you're Record is what it says you are in Mikes Case his has for years Go Pack GO !!!😕

Originally Posted by: Rick12 



How good was Belicheck in Cleveland? He didn't magically discover how to coach in New England, he got paired up with a First round HOF QB. Packers have gone to the playoffs 19 of the last 25 years, 3 different head coaches got them there, Before that twice from the last SB won in 67. What is the common denominator? Great QBs.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
uffda udfa
7 years ago

How good was Belicheck in Cleveland? He didn't magically discover how to coach in New England, he got paired up with a First round HOF QB. Packers have gone to the playoffs 19 of the last 25 years, 3 different head coaches got them there, Before that twice from the last SB won in 67. What is the common denominator? Great QBs.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Thank you...thank you...thank you. How's old Phil Jackson doing out in NY? Oh, not so well...bottom feeding team? I guess that's what happens when you don't have MJ.
Mike McCarthy has been a hindrance to winning MORE. FOUR OT LOSSES in the playoffs!? That's pretty hard to do when you've had back to back HOF QB's to coach.

Expectations for more are not unrealistic be it me or anyone else expecting it. The masses think what has been done is wonderful. How lucky we are to have MM! That's fine. There are some who realize that 10-7 in the playoffs is not something to brag about when you've trotted out back to back HOF QB's.

The point was made that Mike McCarthy gets no in season help from our GM. That's fair. If Mike McCarthy had better players he'd be a better coach for sure. If it ain't MM, it's someone who is holding us back. Who could that be? A simple signing of Jared Cook changed our O immensely. We lose yesterday without him had we played with RR, Bostick and Perrillo. Many of us screamed for a legit TE with speed. Many said RR was just fine and they trusted Ted. Pretty clear how that one shook out.

Add Woodson and Pickett...SB championship.

Add Peppers...into the NFC Championship (he's hung around way too long now, though)

Add Cook...into the NFC Championship

See a pattern emerging? We need to add pieces via FA that we desperately need. When we don't we don't get anywhere near the SB. Aaron is such a monumental advantage for us that it's plain sad how little he's been helped by our ultra conservative mentality to winning championships in Green Bay.

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wpr
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7 years ago

I stopped reading RIGHT HERE because no one is comparing them, so settle the hell down!! It's just a list of Playoff victory's, holy crap!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Ok it's not a comparison. Lists are not meant to compare the people on that list. 🙄
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Ok it's not a comparison. Lists are not meant to compare the people on that list. 🙄

Originally Posted by: wpr 


Thank you for realizing it is not a comparison. I found it mildly interesting that our current head coach has the more Packers playoff victories than any other Packers head coach. That said, he's also coached several more years too.
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7 years ago
Packers have been playing in a weak division for years. Put Mike McCarthy in a stronger division and no Rodgers, MM's record would be dismal. Guess who called the last play of the game yesterday? It's wasn't MM. There should be at least 2 more SB Trophy's, i.e. 15-1 season and possibly last season, if not for his failure during the Seattle game.......



nerdmann
7 years ago

Packers have been playing in a weak division for years. Put Mike McCarthy in a stronger division and no Rodgers, MM's record would be dismal. Guess who called the last play of the game yesterday? It's wasn't MM. There should be at least 2 more SB Trophy's, i.e. 15-1 season and possibly last season, if not for his failure during the Seattle game.......



Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



Mike was hired to develop Rodgers. Of there was. O Aaron, there would be no Mike. Alex Smith would have been developed by Mike instead.

That said, I take Lombardi, then Holmgren, then McCarthy.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
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